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re: US spy agencies agreed Iran wasn't building a nuke before war started
Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:10 am to BBONDS25
Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:10 am to BBONDS25
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The same IC that determined Hunters laptop was Russian propaganda? You gullible moron.
Exactly. Some people embrace their role as useful idiots.
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:23 am to The_Duke
Dude, you're on Tigerdroppings.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:21 am to FluffyBunnyFeet
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Just like all the WMDs we found in Iraq
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I love how people mindlessly repeat this line as if it was a proven fact when the reality is we know he had them because he used them previously. I still remember the news stories on CNN. Hans Blix and his hapless team of UN dipshits "inspecting" suspected weapons facilities. They'd roll up to a site they wanted to inspect and the Iraqis wouldn't immediately let them in. They'd sit at the front gate with their thumbs up their asses while trucks were seen leaving out the rear. Once the trucks were gone, the Iraqis would let the inspectors in. This happened over and over, site after site. It was so comically transparent what was happening, but the inspectors would go in, find nothing, and say with a straight face "Welp, no WMDs here" and idiots back home would chant "Bush lied! People died!"
It has more to do with the fact that once the Saddam regime was toppled, in 20 years no signs of recovered WMDs have been found. Not in Iraq, not in Syria, none.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:27 am to sgallo3
Interesting. The IC has never been in agreement on anything else. Their job used to be to present information and probabilities and let the elected officials make the hard call.
Now, to find out every opinion was Iran hadn’t restarted their program and all the enriched uranium was harmless is quite the revelation.
Trump definitely should not be reelected now.
Now, to find out every opinion was Iran hadn’t restarted their program and all the enriched uranium was harmless is quite the revelation.
Trump definitely should not be reelected now.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:29 am to KiwiHead
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OK. Then what about our own intel? You know, the info that we generally use?
quote:Iran has it squirreled away for safe keeping, according to their own statements.
According to the IAEA, Iran maintains a stockpile of 440.9 kilograms (972 pounds) of uranium enriched up to 60% purity — a short, technical step away from weapons-grade levels of 90%.
That stockpile could allow Iran to build as many as 10 nuclear bombs, should it decide to weaponize its program, IAEA director general Rafael Grossi warned in a recent interview with the AP.
PBS
Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:48 am to jrodLSUke
“Exactly. Some people embrace their role as useful idiots”(quote jrod).
“Behold, I will send them great delusion that they will believe a lie”. They embrace it because it is the subjective version of reality that they perceive. They can’t help it. A massive and painful blow to their perception bubble is the only force that can reset to the default common sense paradigm.
Listening to Royce White; he is the most honest, eloquent and aggressive voice in the MAGA (Christian Nationalist) counter-revolutionary movement. He’d better watch his back because he is the warrior version of Charlie Kirk.
I don’t think there is a person of any political demographic that could debate him and remain credible. The only thing that he can be criticized for is that he has given up on dialogue and a political process because such is useless given the opposition’s delusion and common sense insanity. Which is exactly the position of many if not most on this Forum. White knows that the Left’s passive aggression is moving towards kinetic aggression and he is ready to rumble.
“Behold, I will send them great delusion that they will believe a lie”. They embrace it because it is the subjective version of reality that they perceive. They can’t help it. A massive and painful blow to their perception bubble is the only force that can reset to the default common sense paradigm.
Listening to Royce White; he is the most honest, eloquent and aggressive voice in the MAGA (Christian Nationalist) counter-revolutionary movement. He’d better watch his back because he is the warrior version of Charlie Kirk.
I don’t think there is a person of any political demographic that could debate him and remain credible. The only thing that he can be criticized for is that he has given up on dialogue and a political process because such is useless given the opposition’s delusion and common sense insanity. Which is exactly the position of many if not most on this Forum. White knows that the Left’s passive aggression is moving towards kinetic aggression and he is ready to rumble.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:00 am to Mo Jeaux
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They were only days away from having one once they started it back up. Or something like that.
imagine believing this 
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:04 am to sgallo3
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US spy agencies agreed Iran wasn't building a nuke before war started
Didn't Tulsi Gabbard testify to the same in front of Congress?
And then we "obliterated" their nuclear capability anyway last July.
But Israel convinced Trump they were only 2 weeks away.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:14 am to Cuz413
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in 20 years no signs of recovered WMDs have been found. Not in Iraq, not in Syria, none.
Things don't get found if no one looks for them or they're stopped from looking. Iraq never allowed unfettered inspections so we'll never know for sure.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:23 am to TulsaSooner78
quote:NO!
But Israel convinced Trump they were only 2 weeks away.
They have nearly half a ton of AT LEAST 60% enriched uranium.
That is not according to "Israel" or US warhawks.
It is what the IAEA says.
It is what the Iranian delegation said.
Assuming no Iranian uranium has yet been enriched to weapons-grade, which is a dicey assumption indeed, the time to convert 60% enriched uranium to weapons-grade is less than 2 wks. Again, that is not "according to Israel." It is a matter of fact.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:29 am to TulsaSooner78
I hope Tulsi is going to write a book one day that clears up all of this. I believe that Joe Kent was kind of a warning shot from her.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:34 am to sgallo3
The same agencies that lied about Donald Trump? Those guys?
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:04 am to sgallo3
That guy is low IQ…
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:09 am to FluffyBunnyFeet
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Things don't get found if no one looks for them
This was the basis for the war. How can we have enough intelligence to say they have WMDs and then once Saddam was out, decide eh no need to keep looking, if they fall into the hands of a terrorist group, so be it.
As if they existed ISIS wouldn't have them by now.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:14 am to BBONDS25
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war is a legal term
So the US hasn't been at war since 1945. All those soldiers died in training exercises.
fricking clown.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:24 am to NC_Tigah
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NO!
They have nearly half a ton of AT LEAST 60% enriched uranium.
That is not according to "Israel" or US warhawks.
It is what the IAEA says.
It is what the Iranian delegation said.
Assuming no Iranian uranium has yet been enriched to weapons-grade, which is a dicey assumption indeed, the time to convert 60% enriched uranium to weapons-grade is less than 2 wks. Again, that is not "according to Israel." It is a matter of fact.
The Iranians admitted to Steve Witkoff that they have a 1000 pounds of 60% enriched uranium. That is not the same as being 2 weeks away from having a nuke.
But Israel was able to convince Trump of that.
They were also able to convince Trump that Iran would surrender after a few weeks of intense bombing. They have not.
And now Israel is directing Trump to take out Iran's electrical infrastructure.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:29 am to sgallo3
Trump is either the dumbest president to ever live or they got some files on him he doesn't want released. The easiest explanation is he's dumb as frick but I wouldn't be surprised if the Bubba files were out there.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:35 am to davyjones
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Unfortunately, as timely and convenient as it is, there’s no credible evidence or proof of your claim there.
Israel inflated Iraqi threat.
Israel knew that Iraq didn't have WMD.
Plenty more evidence.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:37 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Trump definitely should not be reelected now.
It's okay, he isn't eligible anyway.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:10 am to TulsaSooner78
quote:No.
The Iranians admitted to Steve Witkoff that they have a 1000 pounds of 60% enriched uranium. That is not the same as being 2 weeks away from having a nuke.
The Iranians claimed they had enough enriched uranium to make 11 bombs. They TTBOMK made no allusion to 60% enriched. Regardless, the transition to weapons-grade could occur in 7-10d.
The IAEA has long held that a state-level actor with such material could assemble a Hiroshima-like nuclear device in a matter of weeks.
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