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re: US individuals expressing a high degree of trust in MDs plummets from 71.5% to 40.1%
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:55 am to LSURussian
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:55 am to LSURussian
I quit several PCPs. One was 40ish and never once looked at me. he had his white coat typing on his laptop. A few others were so bad they almost killed me with their Rx's.
Recent experience says the medical profession is now horrid. I realize in my area a hospital closing exuberated this---
I had a tech write in her report after my CT Scan that my appendix looked very very very angry.- a young zit faced ER doc told me this.
I was in severe pain. I waited many hours because surgeons don't rush in anymore to stop an appendix from rupture.
I was on dilaudid and called them and begged to go to surgery. I was put on the 7AM surgical list, bumping some. It was too late, it ruptured.
The only doctor I saw that knew what they were doing was the surgeon.
Recent experience says the medical profession is now horrid. I realize in my area a hospital closing exuberated this---
I had a tech write in her report after my CT Scan that my appendix looked very very very angry.- a young zit faced ER doc told me this.
I was in severe pain. I waited many hours because surgeons don't rush in anymore to stop an appendix from rupture.
I was on dilaudid and called them and begged to go to surgery. I was put on the 7AM surgical list, bumping some. It was too late, it ruptured.
The only doctor I saw that knew what they were doing was the surgeon.
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Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:55 am to NC_Tigah
4+ years ago my primary care doctor told me if I didn’t get the Covid Vaccine I was probably going to die, I didn’t get the shot. 2 years ago he told me I needed the flu shot or I might die. I didn’t get the shot. 1 year ago he told me I needed the shingles and the Pneumococcal Pneumonia vaccine. I told him no. He told me if I didn’t he wouldn’t be my Dr. any more because he would lose money. I still didn’t get the shots, I have a new Dr. who doesn’t believe in that shite.
This post was edited on 7/11/25 at 9:57 am
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:00 am to GatorOnAnIsland
quote:He was wrong on both of those.
4+ years ago my primary care doctor told me if I didn’t get the Covid Vaccine I was probably going to die, I didn’t get the shot. 2 years ago he told me I needed the flu shot or I might die. I didn’t get the shot.
quote:That is a flatout lie.
1 year ago he told me I needed the shingles and the Pneumococcal Pneumonia vaccine. I told him no. He told me if I didn’t he wouldn’t be my Dr. any more because he would lose money.
He likely told you to get it. He didn’t tell you he won’t be your doctor anymore because he will lose money.
Why can’t you just get your point across without overdramatizing it?
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:00 am to Powerman
quote:
Doctors will still exist in some capacity but if they want to be effective they'll have to lean heavily on AI systems.
I don't believe AI will take over surgery. There are an infinite amount of subjective decisions made with every cut and stich along the way. Absolutely zero surgeries are the same and that's what computers require in order to repeat performance. Now, AI can certainly assist but I don't believe that it can replace.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:01 am to Lakeboy7
quote:actually ignorance is dead on point but not for the reasons the article or you are implying. You see the problem is that quite obviously most people don't know medicine. But here's the problem. Now everybody knows a few things to be true
re you “writing off” ignorance
They know that we now are claiming consensus equals absolute facts. They know that doctors receive massive incentives from competing interests. And most importantly they now know that the government will happily fricking take your license and prevent you from practicing if you deviate from the consensus. I don't mean if you turn out incompetent. I mean just simply refusing to articulate a consensus line can get you to lose your career
This means that the average person now is not only completely aware that the doctors either via coercion or self-interest are no longer purely motivated. Nothing they ever were but now we know for sure. And we know that while simultaneously having no ability from a education standpoint to validate which ones are which. So yes ignorance is a problem but it's a problem much like when dealing with unscrupulous mechanics. Let's face it and unscrupulous mechanic is much less concerning to somebody who knows how to fix cars themselves or at least knows a lot about cars
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:03 am to cajunangelle
quote:Wait, what?
I had a tech write in her report after my CT Scan that my appendix looked very very very angry.- a young zit faced ER doc told me this.
I was in severe pain. I waited many hours because surgeons don't rush in anymore to stop an appendix from rupture.
I was on dilaudid and called them and begged to go to surgery. I was put on the 7AM surgical list, bumping some. It was too late, it ruptured.
The only doctor I saw that knew what they were doing was the surgeon.
It sounds like everyone knew what they were doing EXCEPT the surgeon.
So, you got a competent diagnosis by everyone involved, including the “zit-faced doctor”, and the surgeon didn’t want to come in to do the surgery until the morning, yet everyone who isn’t the surgeon was wrong…
Who do you think books the surgeries?
You know that we can’t force surgeons to come in and perform surgery?
This post was edited on 7/11/25 at 10:05 am
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:07 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
US individuals expressing a high degree of trust in MDs plummets from 71.5% to 40.1%
I am sure it's one of those things like people trust their own doctor, but don't trust the medical community.
Just like congress. Survey people and congress has a 31% approval rating. Yet people still elect their incumbent senators and representatives by 60+%. They don't like congress, but don't don't think that their elected people are the problem.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:08 am to NC_Tigah
Valid.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:09 am to GatorOnAnIsland
I can't get too detailic because there are weirdos here. But to visit with a newborn baby I was told I had to get Tdap booster.
I did and was pushed many times for 3 other vax's. I asked if giving all of these, plus the Tdap was wise. No reply. I opted out of all but Tdap. WHY did they mix tetanus with whooping cough is beyond me?
The pharmacy gets paid bigly per vax. I have 2 DILs that are pharmacists.
I did and was pushed many times for 3 other vax's. I asked if giving all of these, plus the Tdap was wise. No reply. I opted out of all but Tdap. WHY did they mix tetanus with whooping cough is beyond me?
The pharmacy gets paid bigly per vax. I have 2 DILs that are pharmacists.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:10 am to NC_Tigah
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One recent survey2 recorded a shocking 4-year decrease in the proportion of US individuals expressing a high degree of trust, from 71.5% to 40.1%. Reasons for this rapid change are probably numerous, but it seems likely that they could include such recent factors as the polarized response to the pandemic, increases in health care costs borne by patients, and primary care shortages that create barriers to access and reduce the chance that a patient will develop a stable, long-term relationship with a clinician.
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I can help them out... it has nothing to do with costs or primary care shortages.
There you go.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:15 am to Scruffy
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That is a flatout lie. He likely told you to get it. He didn’t tell you he won’t be your doctor anymore because he will lose money. Why can’t you just get your point across without overdramatizing it?
He absolutely said that to me. If you don’t like it GFY. Who the frick are you to tell me that was a lie. fricking pompous a-holes here.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:16 am to GatorOnAnIsland
quote:Ok, Jan.
He absolutely said that to me. If you don’t like it GFY. Who the frick are you to tell me that was a lie. fricking pompous a-holes here.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:16 am to Scruffy
Okay that may give me a different perspective What I meant was the surgeon was so confident and knew it had already ruptured when he reviewed the scans 10 hours later.
I spent three days in the hospital with a leaking drain tube because the surgeon doesn't work until his normal rotation? How will I ever know if anyone called him? Aren't there surgeons on call?
ETA-Mind you this is a shitty Hosp. referenced when another fam member was there months earlier.
What I meant was the surgeon was so confident and knew it had already ruptured when he reviewed the scans 10 hours later. I spent three days in the hospital with a leaking drain tube because the surgeon doesn't work until his normal rotation? How will I ever know if anyone called him? Aren't there surgeons on call?
ETA-Mind you this is a shitty Hosp. referenced when another fam member was there months earlier.
This post was edited on 7/11/25 at 10:21 am
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:22 am to GatorOnAnIsland
what he meant was no way he said he would lose money-no one is this stupid.
he likely said...I won't treat you anymore.
he likely said...I won't treat you anymore.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:23 am to cajunangelle
quote:Surgeries at night are for highly emergent situations only.
I spent three days in the hospital with a leaking drain tube because the surgeon doesn't work until his normal rotation?
By that I mean traumas, coding, etc.
This is even more likely in small, rural hospitals.
Yes, a ruptured appendix would count, especially if concern for intra-abdominal infection is present, but if the radiologist read it as inflamed, dilated, hyperemic, but not ruptured, no surgeon would call in anesthesia and staff for a middle of the night surgery.
It simply doesn’t happen.
And if the surgeon was contacted, given a history, yet didn’t look at the images until 10 hours later, that is on him.
In summation, the initial read may have been read as “not ruptured”. That almost always results in a morning surgery, even in pediatrics.
quote:Surgeons book the surgeries. That is the only way they get on the schedule.
How will I ever know if anyone called him? Aren't there surgeons on call?
Now, there may be another factor.
Many surgeons have advanced practice providers (PAs and NPs) or residents who take call for them and act as the middlemen.
This post was edited on 7/11/25 at 10:24 am
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:23 am to cajunangelle
quote:This.
what he meant was no way he said he would lose money-no one is this stupid.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:25 am to GumboPot
quote:
I don't believe AI will take over surgery.
Possibly not. I see it being most beneficial in diagnosis. I know several people who went through all sorts of trial and error that could have been avoided if an AI agent was involved.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:34 am to Scruffy
Your last paragraph tells all. There were 3 residents circling in. Each said something different. One was so arrogant she said it isn't an appendicitis until she says it is- After me practically jumping at her kicking her off the bed when she examined lower right pushing with her hands.
Blood work and CTscan showed appendicitis. The lady reading the scan read wrong . But how in the tar nation can they tell if it is NEAR rupture other than vvv angry looking?
Blood work and CTscan showed appendicitis. The lady reading the scan read wrong . But how in the tar nation can they tell if it is NEAR rupture other than vvv angry looking?
This post was edited on 7/11/25 at 10:36 am
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:36 am to GumboPot
quote:
Stop being drones to Big Pharma and reclaim your professional autonomy, doctors. Be a human doctor. Not the future AI version of what Big Pharma wants you to become.
I know that this thread is going to tie this back to covid, but it extends beyond that.
Our baby has pretty bad eczema. We have tried probably 3 or 4 doctors. Every one has said "take this steroid and when she is 6 months get her on Dupixent shots. It's hard to figure out the cause so let's just treat the symptoms." How about we take the extra time to figure out the cause and not just load up a baby with drugs. There may not be an answer, but you will never know if you don't look, but big pharma doesn't make the money off of treating causes only treating symptoms.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:36 am to cajunangelle
quote:There is no “near rupture” really.
But how in the tar nation can they tell if it is NEAR rupture other than vvv angry looking?
You can make deductions based on size and appearance, but nothing is fact until physical examination of the appendix.
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