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re: U.S. commits to help Ukraine for 10 more yrs
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:23 am to Night Vision
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:23 am to Night Vision
Anyone at this point can’t see this as a money laundering operation , and a way for these politicians and their buddies to line their pockets with your money is a complete buffoon . Just like Iraq, we will spend all this money and have nothing to show for it . War is money for these people .
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:25 am to ksayetiger
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Let's pretend this is true
Why in the world do we need to commit to 10 years for a war? That would be like committing money until 1953 during the battle of the bulge.
To avoid this spreading further and actually having boots on the ground. It is better to keep this at the modern version of the Lend Lease Act rather than our men and women dying over there. I'm not as polarized as the other posters making angry comments. It is possible that both sides are correct as far as this board goes.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:25 am to Night Vision
Meanwhile the I-10 bridge in Lake Charles is closed, because it’s crumbling.
I would like to thank both Louisiana Senators for their continued support of Ukraine
I would like to thank both Louisiana Senators for their continued support of Ukraine
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:25 am to lake chuck fan
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What would the US reaction if Russia prepared to set up military bases along our Mexico border?
Bingo. The NATO membership push for Ukraine played a huge part in all of this and many refuse to acknowledge.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:29 am to jmarto1
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It is a necessary evil at this point
Not true at all.
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but on the other hand Putin isn't going to stop with Ukraine
This is also not true. This could have ended with the peace treaty that Zelensky refused to sign because Boris told him not to. A peace treaty could be signed within days and Russia will not go any further.
You don't know anything, brother.
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 11:33 am
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:30 am to kilo
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Bingo. The NATO membership push for Ukraine played a huge part in all of this and many refuse to acknowledge.
Was this an escalation? Technically, yes. It was also NATO actually doing something to say we aren't going to let you keep invading. The invasion of Crimea and the Euromaidan protests are more than likely what kicked this off.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:31 am to jmarto1
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Putin isn't going to stop with Ukraine
Yes, and in the 1980s the press explained that we must spend more money to find a cure for AIDS now because it was going to morph into an airborne disease and kill all the heteros.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:33 am to jmarto1
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It is a necessary evil at this point.
No it is not.
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 11:35 am
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:41 am to lake chuck fan
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Regardless, it's not our problem! We've spent years funding and preparing NATO for this event.
You know we wouldn't all of a sudden stop funding NATO, correct?
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Let Europe deal with their own problems. It's not worth our money or American lives. The US motivation has nothing to do with any honorable reason.
Article V matters and it isn't just our blood that would be spilled. Disagree with me all you want but those two points should give you pause
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if Russia prepared to set up military bases along our Mexico border?
How far away do you think Cuba is?
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:48 am to Night Vision
If the amount they plan to commit for 10 years hasn’t already been approved by Congress, null and void.
We need a state governor with balls to find a way to take this to SCOTUS as unconstitutional.
We need a state governor with balls to find a way to take this to SCOTUS as unconstitutional.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 12:08 pm to jmarto1
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but on the other hand DC isn't going to stop with Ukraine.
Are you behind funding genital mutilation studies in Pakistan for the next decade too?
Posted on 6/13/24 at 12:13 pm to Night Vision
I’d rather ww3
Posted on 6/13/24 at 12:17 pm to jmarto1
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It is a necessary evil at this point
No, it most certainly is not necessary but it is evil...
Posted on 6/13/24 at 12:17 pm to Night Vision
At this point the best thing for America is for Russia to win quickly.
The MIC must spend money and I guess they can’t drag us into a war so now we must fund wars that don’t involve us.
The MIC must spend money and I guess they can’t drag us into a war so now we must fund wars that don’t involve us.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 12:52 pm to jmarto1
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Just google Putin's track record of invasions
I did. I didn't see an invasion of a single NATO country. I didn't see any invasion that was used as a springboard to invade another country.
I did see Putin saying for years that NATO involvement in Ukraine was a line in the sand, which means Putin is doing exactly what he said he would. Also, all of Putin's invasions (which is 2) you are using to support your argument were in the opposite direction from Europe.
1. Chechnya - the invasion started after radical islamist terrorists killed civilians in Russia. Not even remotely close to the same as invading Europe.
2. Georgia - essentially a civil war with one group siding with Russia. Russia invaded after NATO tried to interfere and push for Georgia membership. Sound familiar?
So we have 3 Russian invasions. One to fight terrorism and two to prevent NATO from having a new country on their borders. None of these even remotely suggest that Putin is looking to invade European countries that are already in NATO.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 12:54 pm to jmarto1
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on the other hand Putin isn't going to stop with Ukraine
sheep
Posted on 6/13/24 at 12:54 pm to SCLibertarian
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Lol. That worked so well in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Egypt.
Salient point.
Our previous record at “Nation Building” is absolute shite.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 12:54 pm to Night Vision
Put a hold on it, let the government fall, no more party to the agreement.
Similar to what the Dems did to South Vietnam except we won’t feel bad about leaving Ukraine out to dry.
Similar to what the Dems did to South Vietnam except we won’t feel bad about leaving Ukraine out to dry.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 12:55 pm to Zach
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Yes, and in the 1980s the press explained that we must spend more money to find a cure for AIDS now because it was going to morph into an airborne disease and kill all the heteros.
Well, we now have trannies targeting straight people for death, so…
Posted on 6/13/24 at 12:59 pm to Night Vision
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Putin isn't going to stop with Ukraine
The government said the same thing about Viet Nam. Its called the domino
theory. Each will fall one after the other. Same BS ...different day.
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