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re: US' capture of Maduro likely broke international law according to experts

Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:41 pm to
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:41 pm to
We need this 3 step process

First, leave the UN

Then, deport the UN from our country

Next, take all our money back and end all foreign aid

Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:42 pm to
Sure. I don’t care about the country of Pakistan. Not one bit.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:43 pm to
There is no such thing as international law. International law is whatever we agree to.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:43 pm to
Ok so one more

We can act militarily in every country in the world concerning terrorists?
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:45 pm to
As a blanket rule? I doubt it.

Against someone like Osama that did what he did? Probably.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:45 pm to
Now it's probably?

So international laws are on a sliding scale?
Posted by GeorgePaton
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:47 pm to
I'll say it - right now the Trump Doctrine is the ONLY thing keeping this world from completely going off the edge.

Nicolas Maduro got feisty and President Trump nailed his arse. Now every despot in the world knows that if you don't stop your shite he will ruin your day.

Frick these mail order international lawyers.

President Trump is right about..........everything.

Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

There is no such thing as international law. International law is whatever we agree to.


The same U.N. that they loonies keep appealing to didn’t recognize Maduro as the legitimate head of state of Venezuela.
Posted by lurking
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:47 pm to
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Next, take all our money back and end all foreign aid


Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:48 pm to
“Diplomatic Immunity “? lol…
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

I assume so since you said the previous one.
TTBOMK there was but one indictment previous to Maduro's arrest. If it was legitimate, his arrest is too.
Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:50 pm to
It’s pretty clear that the forced arrest is not justified in international law as self defense. If we assert self defense because drugs come from there, then self defense can be anything, and there is no law.

The second issue that I see is that heads of state generally have immunity for actions as heads of state. That principle protects our own past presidents from foreign trial. Law is a two way street.

What we will hear in coming days (and what I haven’t seen discussed yet) is the argument that Maduro was not actually a head of state. He lost the election and nullified the result, and so he does not have immunity because he wasn’t elected. That argument will probably prevail, but it is close because has has actually acted as a head of state for some time.

The issue in international law is the seizure by force of Maduro and his wife absent a war or any actual attack by Venezuela. There’s no exception that would apply here. But this is also the most likely issue to get swept aside because we are past that.

This isn’t a legal operation despite the desperate efforts to frame it that way. But that won’t undo it either.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:50 pm to
Naw man he is a president. Lol
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:50 pm to
How about Gaddafi?
Posted by jammajin
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:56 pm to
One was the head of a nation and one wasn’t

I don’t think you know what these words mean.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:56 pm to
If you say so. That’s nothing something I said.
Posted by jammajin
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:57 pm to
Give it up. He’s not going to admit his original position is just wrong.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:57 pm to
Cool. I never said anything about the arrest being legitimate or not.
Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

How about Gaddafi?

Immunity was the key issue, with France’s highest court upholding the immunity and the ICC arguing that immunity does not apply to international crimes, only domestic actions. As I recall, the issue was not fully resolved, even though he was dead.
Posted by Gunny Hartman
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:59 pm to
I voted for that!
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