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re: UPDATE page6 judge BLOCKED Trump from continuing to build his WH Ballroom.Trumps response
Posted on 3/31/26 at 2:48 pm to lepdagod
Posted on 3/31/26 at 2:48 pm to lepdagod
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public funds will have to be used for maintenance and upkeep eventually
Probably a wash with the upkeep of that 80 year old wing they demolished plus the temporary tented ballrooms they were constantly installing and removing.
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 2:48 pm to Ailsa
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It's not taxpayer funded.
You missing it’s being built at the White House part
Posted on 3/31/26 at 2:49 pm to lepdagod
They're not thinking this through. It's like changing the cabinets in an apartment without permission. Doesn't matter if you fund it.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 2:49 pm to Penrod
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Probably a wash with the upkeep of that 80 year old wing they demolished plus the temporary tented ballrooms they were constantly installing and removing.
So it will use public funds???
Posted on 3/31/26 at 2:51 pm to ATrillionaire
Posted on 3/31/26 at 2:54 pm to lepdagod
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So it will use public funds???
It will probably not require an increase in public funds, but obviously it will require some, just as the old east wing did and the temporary ballroom did.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 2:54 pm to frankthetank
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So one branch of government has to ask another for permission to build something that is privately funded?
I mean, it's the White House. It's owned by the people of the United States, not by Trump. I'm no lawyer, but it doesn't seem out of bounds to say that Congress should have some say on major modifications to such an important building that is owned by the U.S. government.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 2:56 pm to Ailsa
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It's not taxpayer funded.
Do public funds go to the upkeep of the White House? Can the next Democrat to win the White House build a giant gay sex dungeon in the West Wing if it is privately funded?
I don't care one way or the other about the ballroom, but seems silly to say the Executive can avoid the power of the purse given to the Legislature by simply saying "it is privately funded."
Posted on 3/31/26 at 2:58 pm to lionward2014
Exactly. And I'm all for the construction. Also weird that it's supposedly privately funded, but he constantly wants people to know that's it's under budget. Why would we care?
Posted on 3/31/26 at 2:58 pm to Penrod
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It will probably not require an increase in public funds, but obviously it will require some
That’s the whole point…
Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:01 pm to lionward2014
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Can the next Democrat to win the White House build a giant gay sex dungeon in the West Wing if it is privately funded?
Ask obama.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:01 pm to greygoose
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There should be consequences for judges who routinely get their decisions overturned. After so many, just like any other job that you keep getting wrong, consequences for doing a bad job should come into play!
Just curious on some other decisions this judge has made:
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On May 17, 2016, Leon ruled that limits imposed by Washington, D.C., on permits to carry handguns were unconstitutional. He struck down the District requirement that an applicant show "good reason" before a concealed carry permit would be issued.
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On January 4, 2018, Leon denied a request by Fusion GPS to block the House Intelligence Committee from demanding bank records of 70 of the private investigative firm's transactions with law firms, journalists and contractors, ruling that the request "did not violate the company's First Amendment rights" to political speech and association.
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On February 15, 2019, Leon dismissed a lawsuit brought by the North American Butterfly Association against the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) seeking to prevent the building of a border wall through its National Butterfly Center, a 100-acre wildlife preserve in the Rio Grande Valley in Texas. He said the Fourth Amendment against unreasonable searches and seizures "offers little refuge for unenclosed land near one of the country’s external borders" and that environmental review had been properly waived by the DHS.
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On July 19, 2019, Leon upheld the Trump administration's health insurance expansion that allowed companies to offer additional plans that do not meet the coverage requirements of the Affordable Care Act. Leon rejected the claim by the Association for Community Affiliated Plans that the move to authorize short-term coverage plans was a violation of the Administrative Procedure Act, and granted summary judgement to the government.
Doesn't seem like he is some liberal activist judge.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:02 pm to ATrillionaire
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but he constantly wants people to know that's it's under budget. Why would we care?
We know damn well the taxpayers paying for this building…
Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:02 pm to lepdagod
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That’s the whole point…
I don’t see why that is a valid point. Did Obama’s basketball court require maintenance? There is surely a budget, funded by congress, to maintain the White House. If this does not require an increase in the budget why would it be an issue requiring congress?
Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:03 pm to Ailsa
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Ask obama.
What Barry and Michael did in there is their own business as long as they didn't spend our tax dollars doing it.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:03 pm to Ailsa
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Where does this leave us? Unfortunately for Defendants, unless and until Congress blesses this project through statutory authorization, construction has to stop! But here is the good news. It is not too late for Congress to authorize the continued construction of the ballroom project. The President may at any time go to Congress to obtain express authority to construct a ballroom and to do so with private funds. Indeed, Congress may even choose to appropriate funds for the ballroom, or at least decide that some other funding scheme is acceptable. Either way, Congress will thereby retain its authority over the nation's property and its oversight over the Government's spending. The National Trust's interests in a constitutional and lawful process will be vindicated. And the American people will benefit from the branches of Government exercising their constitutionally prescribed roles. Not a bad outcome, that!
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:03 pm to DRMPHD
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I mean, it's the White House. It's owned by the people of the United States, not by Trump. I'm no lawyer, but it doesn't seem out of bounds to say that Congress should have some say on major modifications to such an important building that is owned by the U.S. government.
Your concern was noted when Obama built a basketball court at the white house.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:05 pm to Ailsa
The thing that will suck is if the Dems play hardball and make Trump negotiate for this funding.
Like - no more ICE funding if we get this. Its why Trump shouldn't market shite to hard. He backs himself into a corner by making it so obvious how badly he wants it
Like - no more ICE funding if we get this. Its why Trump shouldn't market shite to hard. He backs himself into a corner by making it so obvious how badly he wants it
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:06 pm to Penrod
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Did Obama’s basketball court require maintenance?
Court already existed… they just used some of the old tennis court that wasn’t being used to make a full court… what’s your point??
Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:06 pm to Decatur
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For example, President Bill Clinton’s jogging track, built in 1993 on the South Grounds, cost $30,000 and was paid for with private contributions via the National Park Foundation. President Gerald Ford’s outdoor pool was built in 1975 at an estimated $52,417 for construction plus $9,000 for landscaping, funded privately, with the White House Historical Association later citing a total around $66,800. These examples help frame what “amenity” dollars can look like at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
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Decatur
I don't recall your objection to Obama's basketball courts.
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