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Update on NYT coverage of plagiarism: "expert" says Times didn't give him the whole story

Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:04 am
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:04 am
Worth reading his explanation and the replies contained in his X post linked below.
Thank God for Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter. Without it, imagine how much easier it would be for the gaslighting of regime media to go unchecked.

This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 8:06 am
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10722 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:07 am to
New York Times: All the news we deem fit to print.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37406 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:10 am to
Sure bro we believe ya
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23923 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:22 am to

What was the NYT story about? I’m not giving them clicks.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
4012 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:26 am to
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What was the NYT story about? I’m not giving them clicks.


Kamala didn't plagiarize anything and it's racist to notice that she did.

This guy was just one of the academic "experts" the NYT calls to shine up whatever bullshite they are pushing at the moment; in this case though they couldn't even get one of those to say what they wanted without carefully managing the info they gave him.
Posted by armtackledawg
Member since Aug 2017
14464 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:27 am to
It was nice of him to put his professional reputation on the line based on a "trust me bro" from the reporter.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
16063 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:41 am to
I don't buy it. Unless he had a relationship with a reporter and the person never screwed him over.

They screwed him over this time. As stated, he is likely a shill for the democrats.

A less likely possibility is that he was mislead.

Prove it's the latter and you can have your cred back.
Posted by armtackledawg
Member since Aug 2017
14464 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:53 am to
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Prove it's the latter and you can have your cred back.


If he is a testifying expert witness, and he almost surely is, that walk back tweet will be Exhibit A on every cross-examination for the rest of his career. Bad, bad move on his part.
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
12286 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:31 am to
What exactly did he say the first time?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:35 am to
This Fox News article summarizes it well:
LINK


"In a review of the book, The New York Times found that none of the passages in question took the ideas or thoughts of another writer, which is considered the most serious form of plagiarism. Instead, the sentences copy descriptions of programs or statistical information that appear elsewhere," the article read.

It also cited a plagiarism consultant, Jonathan Bailey, who said Rufo had taken minor infractions and tried to "make a big deal of it." Bailey wrote on X on Monday that he had not performed a full analysis of Harris' book.

Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
12286 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:14 pm to
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"In a review of the book, The New York Times found that none of the passages in question took the ideas or thoughts of another writer, which is considered the most serious form of plagiarism. Instead, the sentences copy descriptions of programs or statistical information that appear elsewhere," the article read.


Ah so just a handful of plagiarism
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38378 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:27 pm to
Don't they have really good plagiarism software programs that do a pretty good job? My understanding is the she lifted stuff right out of wiki. I thought this was pretty easily determined now. Don't they use on most dissertations that are submitted for doctorate or post doctorates?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49533 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:29 pm to
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the sentences copy descriptions of programs or statistical information that appear elsewhere,"

Then book note it and move on.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80527 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

Don't they have really good plagiarism software programs that do a pretty good job? My understanding is the she lifted stuff right out of wiki. I thought this was pretty easily determined now. Don't they use on most dissertations that are submitted for doctorate or post doctorates?


Allegedly, they were cited in the reference section in the back, but not in the paragraphs where the exact language was used.

NYT says that's not the bad kind of plagiarism.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38378 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:46 pm to
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NYT says that's not the bad kind of plagiarism.
Sort of like there were just a few apartment complexes taken over by Venezuelans.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
19812 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 3:22 pm to
A few apartment buildings
Not much election fraud
No one in combat zones
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