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re: University of Virginia to offer aid to undocumented students

Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:28 pm to
Posted by conservativewifeymom
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:28 pm to
Are you sure about that?!?! If nothing else, it's making it possible for these individuals to get in and making fewer spots available for US citizens.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:28 pm to
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University spokesman Wes Hester says the money will come from private funding.

As long as it's private, then I don't care. It's pretty shitty of the school to basically say they prefer to help illegals over their own citizens.
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:28 pm to
Students who are US citizens should sue.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:29 pm to
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As long as it's private, then I don't care.


But as OP noted, if they give them in state tuition, you can't wave your hands over that and call it private funding.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:29 pm to
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Offering aid doesn't mean easier admissions standards for a certain group of people


It certainly means it’s easier to matriculate.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:31 pm to
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Just giving back after being gifted an Ncaa title in hoops this year
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Favorite team:Auburn 


Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138923 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:31 pm to
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But as OP noted, if they give them in state tuition, you can't wave your hands over that and call it private funding.

Do they meet the resident requirements and have state ID?
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
87208 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:32 pm to
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Offering aid doesn't mean easier admissions standards for a certain group of people



You're right. It just costs taxpayers more money to fund individuals that aren't legal to be here in the first place and are taking the spot of an American student of any race, gender, pronoun ect.

Every illegal immigrant that gets admitted, that is one less citizen that the University can admit. If you count the department limitations for specific degrees it reduces even more.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:34 pm to
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Several factors are used to determine if a person demonstrates intent to remain in Virginia indefinitely. A college or university may ask for information from you or your parents about any of the following factors:

State to which income taxes are paid

Voter registration and actual voting

Driver's license

Motor vehicle registration

Continuous residence in Virginia

Social and economic ties

Ownership of real property

Sources of financial support

Current employment in Virginia

Employment in Virginia postgraduation

Military records




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The fact that an individual is a citizen of another country does not automatically disqualify that person from establishing domicile in Virginia. If you are not a U.S. Citizen you will need to present your immigration documentation to the institution. Students unable to present valid, current INS documentation of their legal status cannot demonstrate domicile.



Seems there are quite a few ways to qualify.

If they're willing to take them and give them financial aid here, it's not absurd to think they'll work with them to qualify here.
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 5:35 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:36 pm to
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If they're willing to take them and give them financial aid here, it's not absurd to think they'll work with them to qualify here.



Financial aid from the American taxpayers.
Posted by OnTheGeaux
Har Tavor
Member since Oct 2009
3067 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:37 pm to
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As long as it's private


It's not private, it's a shell game.


Are those "private donations" tax deductable? If so then it's laundered tax dollars redirected.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:42 pm to
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Every illegal immigrant that gets admitted, that is one less citizen that the University can admit.


Why? Their fist year enrollment has been increasing significantly over the past decade. They only give offers to 26-28% of people who apply. They have very high admissions standards. This doesn't defacto mean that fewer US Citizens will get in.

Posted by roadGator
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 6:04 pm to
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Offering aid doesn't mean easier admissions standards for a certain group of people 


:winkwink:
Posted by GAAtty70
Member since Nov 2015
905 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 6:05 pm to
Virginia problems and Virginia issues for Virginia citizens.

Viva la Federalism!
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 6:05 pm to
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It's not private, it's a shell game.


Yes
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 6:19 pm to
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University of Virginia to offer aid to ILLEGAL students


FIFY
Posted by George Dickel
Member since Jun 2019
2249 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 6:41 pm to
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Just giving back after being gifted an Ncaa title in hoops this year


LOL
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
26274 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 6:41 pm to
Just more Americans last from the Democrats.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 6:43 pm to
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FIFY


They aren't technically illegal at the moment if they have been granted DACA approval
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39859 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 6:57 pm to
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I'm sure there are lots of legal Virginians that would be glad to recieve help.
And presumably there are plenty of them that DO.
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