re: UM, Don't look now but somehow, AOC is getting this Police thing 100% correct right now.

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How much will that cost the individual officer to maintain on their salary? Do cops in the cities have to pay more? Should they be open to frivolous lawsuits and litigation? Let make already over litigious society even more so. Like a lot of things, that sounds good in theory but isn’t practical in reality.

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I am still not hearing a real reason why we make police basically immune to lawsuits that literally every other profession is subject to.

Why are we counting on the taxpayers to pick up the tab for when police departments hire bad apples?

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Im not hearing a real reason as to how this is workable in the real world

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The fundamental problem is this.

Police, on the whole, literally don't know the fricking law. It's honestly amazing. I've been absolutely jarred by how patherically deficient they're proving to be now that video exists in terms of simple laws. Not this high profile shite, but REALLY basic shite. Their understanding of when they actually have authority over you is basically non-existent. The average cop doesn't even appear to know what private proerty is. The average cop thinks "we got a call" eliminates any need to do actual police work and and suddenly makes anyone they come in conctact with obligated to do whatever they are told.

This entire pattern can ONLY be caused by one thing. The reality that there's no reason for them to ACTUALLY frickING KNOW THE LAW!

And other little shite. EVER video I've ever seen of a person being cuffed, the cop calls it "resisting" as he shoves your hand halfway up your back between your shoulder blades and you tighten up. These guys must be fundamentally retarded. If you pushed my left wrist that high, you'd dislocate my shoulder. I do NOT have that range of motion in that shoulder.

Hell, I've watched cops Taze people, tell them to stop moving(while they're being tazed" and then, taze them AGAIN, because they move when they get tazed! We're employing half wits and giving them badges and guns.

And finally, it is VERY evident that cops are scared shitless of reporting on each other. So, it barely matters if one of them on scent actually isn't a count.

We've bred a class of creature in uniform who think they're our daddy. Who thinks that the law is what THEY say it is. And they're fricking arrogant aas hell about it. When they get called on violating the law and the constitution, they say shite like, "are you a lawyer"? As if one needs to be a lawyer to understand basic assed shite.

And we excuse it ALL because of the supposed, "OMG, they have a dangerous job" shite.

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The fundamental problem is this. Police, on the whole, literally don't know the fricking law. It's honestly amazing. I've been absolutely jarred by how patherically deficient they're proving to be now that video exists in terms of simple laws. Not this high profile shite, but REALLY basic shite. Their understanding of when they actually have authority over you is basically non-existent. The average cop doesn't even appear to know what private proerty is. The average cop thinks "we got a call" eliminates any need to do actual police work and and suddenly makes anyone they come in conctact with obligated to do whatever they are told. This entire pattern can ONLY be caused by one thing. The reality that there's no reason for them to ACTUALLY frickING KNOW THE LAW! And other little shite. EVER video I've ever seen of a person being cuffed, the cop calls it "resisting" as he shoves your hand halfway up your back between your shoulder blades and you tighten up. These guys must be fundamentally retarded. If you pushed my left wrist that high, you'd dislocate my shoulder. I do NOT have that range of motion in that shoulder. Hell, I've watched cops Taze people, tell them to stop moving(while they're being tazed" and then, taze them AGAIN, because they move when they get tazed! We're employing half wits and giving them badges and guns. And finally, it is VERY evident that cops are scared shitless of reporting on each other. So, it barely matters if one of them on scent actually isn't a count. We've bred a class of creature in uniform who think they're our daddy. Who thinks that the law is what THEY say it is. And they're fricking arrogant aas hell about it. When they get called on violating the law and the constitution, they say shite like, "are you a lawyer"? As if one needs to be a lawyer to understand basic assed shite. And we excuse it ALL because of the supposed, "OMG, they have a dangerous job" shite.

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Ok, so what real world workable solutions do have to address the problem other than making broad generalizations that cops suck and that you agree with AOC

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Professional Liability Insurance? How much will that cost the individual officer to maintain on their salary? Do cops in the cities have to pay more? Should they be open to frivolous lawsuits and litigation? Let make already over litigious society even more so. Like a lot of things, that sounds good in theory but isn’t practical in reality.

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Why should the taxpayers foot the bill for their crimes and screwups?

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That doesn't mean we should demonize all doctors, and try to defund them, either. The number of police abuses is remarkably low, all things considered. We should not be overly influenced by those who would have us believe otherwise (to push their own agendas).

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The difference though, is that doctors don't qualify for legal immunity when they accidently kill a patient.

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Because literally every other profession somehow manages to go to work every day, given the legal dangers that exist.

Should the public be shocked when the same people that are immune from civil liability manage to do things that another person would face legal trouble for?

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I honestly don't mind the IDEA of qualified immunity for police. We ask them to go interact with some bad people and, eventually, bad shite is gonna happen.

What I mind is the completely absurd interpretation of QI currently accepted by the courts.

The only way to piece QI in today's system is for the cop to do literally the EXACT SAME THING some other cop in the past did that the courts have ruled not OK.

And, by exact, I mean fricking EXACT. Courts routinely rule in favor of QI when cops do something basically 95% the same but one small factor is different.

They're effectively treating officers as if they're mentally retarded and incapable of knowing right from wrong.

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I thought the difference was that doctors got paid a lot more than police, and doctors were not routinely shot at. It's difficult enough to attract people to be police with the relentless attacks against them. If you remove qualified immunity, who in their right mind would become a policeman?

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You act like it's hard for cops to follow the law.

A very strange belief indeed. I mean, sadly, it appears to be true. They kinda suck at following the law. But still.....

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That doesn't mean we should demonize all doctors, and try to defund them, either. The number of police abuses is remarkably low, all things considered. We should not be overly influenced by those who would have us believe otherwise (to push their own agendas).

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I don't care how few it is. We shouldn't have to foot the bill for their crimes.

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No, they don't kinda suck at following the law

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They really do. It's honestly kind of amazing how bad they are at knowing the basic laws governing how they are supposed to interact with the public. But again, why should they know them? There's no penalty whatsover for not knowing them.

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Despite the attempt to paint it otherwise, very few police don't follow the law.

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This is quite simply false. Hell, if anything, they use what little they do know of the law to skirt it.

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It will make it unbearable for a person to be a policeman. Whether he follows the law or not, he will risk lawsuits and going before rogue juries. Even if the policemen win, the lawyer fees will be crippling.

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Both Colorado and New Mexico have no QI in state courts. There is no evidence your assertion is true.