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Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:51 pm to Gifman
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I see all the zelensky dick suckers made their way into this thread
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:02 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Or it could be one or either "putting the screws" so to speak, no?
I suppose, but only if you chose to ignore the more likely and blatantly obvious possible reasons.
And who said anyone has to be blamed? I mean it couldn’t be that a war happening around critical infrastructure causes said infrastructure to be unable to operate, could it? What a weird and totally unlikely answer that would be. We should probably just presume that the deep state and klaus Schwab are covertly aligning with the azov battalion to deny Europe of fuel.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:04 pm to Indefatigable
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I suppose, but only if you chose to ignore the more likely and blatantly obvious possible reasons.
Which are what? Somebody suggested the gas was still flowing up to now because it benefitted Russia. Is that outlandish? What's changed?
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:06 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Somebody suggested the gas was still flowing up to now because it benefitted Russia. Is that outlandish? What's changed?
Most likely something on the ground in that specific location, given that there is a war going on. But idk, that seems like a super out there and crazy hypothesis.
It simply must be something sinister, because Democrats say Ukraine good and therefore a Ukraine must be bad.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:09 pm to Indefatigable
You are ascribing something to me that I didn't say. That's weird.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:10 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Which are what? Somebody suggested the gas was still flowing up to now because it benefitted Russia. Is that outlandish? What's changed?
So you're going to ignore the location of the compressor station, the war, the alignment of countries and the flow of funds and arrive at it somehow being possible that Ukraine did this to achieve something? L. O. L.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:12 pm to cwill
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So you're going to ignore the location of the compressor station, the war, the alignment of countries and the flow of funds and arrive at it somehow being possible that Ukraine did this to achieve something? L. O. L.
I don't know. Looks to me like anyone could have "did this" or, like I said, it could have just as likely been a fog of war/casualty of war type deal. I'm not speculating either way. It's weird watching people get so worked up either way.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:13 pm to Y.A. Tittle
You clearly think that something other than the most basic, common sense explanation is at play though, do you not?
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:15 pm to Indefatigable
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You clearly think that something other than the most basic, common sense explanation is at play though, do you not?
Is that what you got out of this? Really?
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So, it's like a fog of war deal, where you can't really point the finger at anyone here - with perhaps some blame to go around? That sort of makes the most sense to me, and would explain why it was flowing up until now.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:15 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I don't know. Looks to me like anyone could have "did this" or, like I said, it could have just as likely been a fog of war/casualty of war type deal. I'm not speculating either way. It's weird watching people get so worked up either way.
You're trying to hard to be "objective" and acting as if the thread played out in some way that it didn't.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:19 pm to cwill
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You're trying to hard to be "objective" and acting as if the thread played out in some way that it didn't.
I'm actually not.
The BLAME UKRAINE didn't make any more sense to me than the BLAME RUSSIA position, though, and it seemed like everyone was jumping on one or the other.
I don't quite care enough to say 'look at me, I'm objective,' it just seemed like everyone was missing that the shite was coming from Russia and obviously they would have a vested interest in wanting it flowing. Dumbass Hank thought he was elucidating me for pointing that out. I'm not sure what you're worked up about, though.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:51 pm to Nikki_T
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Probably not a good idea, especially when those countries being denied gas are siding with Ukraine in the war. This may cause some to rethink their allegiances.
Ackshually...
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Gas Transit Services of Ukraine (OGTSU) declared force majeure on Tuesday, saying that it was impossible to continue the transit of gas through a connection point and compressor station located in the Lugansk area. As OGTSU personnel “cannot carry out operational and technological control” over the Sokhranovka connector point and Novopskov compressor station, the company cannot continue to fulfill its contract obligations, it said.
Sounds more like Ukraine pining for more money, "to keep the pipeline open and secure"... without actually coming out and saying it.
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This may cause some to rethink their allegiances.
It definitely should, but I don't know if it will. Ukraine has become the "entitled liberal" of the world. Hand always out, wanting more. "Hey, thanks for the $80 billion, guys! But we're gonna need another $400 billion the next time we talk, and an additional $350 billion after that. No sweat though, it's totally worth it guys! Yeah, the half a trillion dollars worth of war weapons sure was swell, but that won't feed us and rebuild our naz- err, military forces."
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:31 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:Proximate cause of this event? No opinion.
who are we blaming here again?
Overall cause? The Great Khan. He started all this in motion centuries ago, When he conquered only half the Slavs
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:33 pm to TigerAxeOK
Ukraine knows we are using them as a pawn. They just want to be paid for it. Can we blame them?
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:36 pm to dgnx6
Did we really believe they were?
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