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re: Ukraine turns off gas to Europe

Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23847 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:06 pm to
Gee. Where's Lugansk? Must be somewhere. What's happening there? who is in control of the territory?
Posted by Nikki_T
Portola Valley
Member since Feb 2021
308 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:07 pm to
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I wonder if this is strategic or if they actually can't control it? I'm sure it's a bit of both.


You make a good point, as well as another who noted that the station is located in a Russian controlled area.


Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26685 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:07 pm to
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Probably not a good idea

Your own linked article indicates that it isn’t exactly a choice. You seem really dumb.

quote:

Gas Transit Services of Ukraine (OGTSU) declared force majeure on Tuesday, saying that it was impossible to continue the transit of gas through a connection point and compressor station located in the Lugansk area. As OGTSU personnel “cannot carry out operational and technological control” over the Sokhranovka connector point and Novopskov compressor station, the company cannot continue to fulfill its contract obligations, it said.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:08 pm to
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I agree with you on the FM tactic. I'm merely supporting my OP with an additional link that is not RT.


Your OP appears to be blaming Ukraine for the shut-in and the one-sided RT article treats the FM event as contrived.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26685 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:09 pm to
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So the dick swinging piano playing hero of democracy is throwing a tantrum?

No. The article clearly indicates that the facilities impacted are in regions known to be under Russian control and/or where heavy fighting is taking place.

Cool attempt at being an edge lord though.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26685 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:10 pm to
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this is what happens when you side with the socialist nazis

Just imagine for a second being this dumb or incapable of processing context.

The infrastructure in question is in Russian-held territory.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101695 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:13 pm to
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Just imagine for a second being this dumb or incapable of processing context.

The infrastructure in question is in Russian-held territory.


Why were the Russians letting it flow up until now?
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:13 pm to
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Just imagine for a second being this dumb or incapable of processing context.

The infrastructure in question is in Russian-held territory.


99% didn't read the article and if they did they never thought to question the bias in an article from Russia.
Posted by Nikki_T
Portola Valley
Member since Feb 2021
308 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:14 pm to
I do blame Ukraine for how they are handling this.


Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:17 pm to
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I do blame Ukraine for how they are handling this.


So they should send workers into russian occupied territory during a direct military conflict to operate a compressor station? And if they don't it's their fault that Russia invaded and started killing Ukranians?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9657 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:25 pm to
Ukraine said that it could and would. RT is a propaganda outlet. Russia Today should be a tell to anyone with 1/4 a brain.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34248 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:28 pm to
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Ukraine is asshoe

And they're winning
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
7166 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:28 pm to
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Ukraine turns off gas to Europe



Zero freaks given.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

quote:

The infrastructure in question is in Russian-held territory.
Why were the Russians letting it flow up until now?
Because it transports RUSSIAN gas to western Europe?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101695 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:29 pm to
So who are we blaming here again?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:29 pm to
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didn't read the article
Is that the purpose of those blue letters? Live and learn ....
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26685 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:31 pm to
If not actually held by the Russians, I’m sure it’s totally unbelievable to consider that servicing the infrastructure has become infeasible with a war happening around it.

It simply MUST be Ukraine putting the screws to Europe unnecessarily. Because that makes sense.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26685 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:32 pm to
ETA: oops, dp.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101695 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:39 pm to
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If not actually held by the Russians, I’m sure it’s totally unbelievable to consider that servicing the infrastructure has become infeasible with a war happening around it.


So, it's like a fog of war deal, where you can't really point the finger at anyone here - with perhaps some blame to go around? That sort of makes the most sense to me, and would explain why it was flowing up until now. Or it could be one or either "putting the screws" so to speak, no?
Posted by Catchfalaya
Member since Feb 2018
1924 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:48 pm to
The Russians must be targeting Ukrainian contract workers. Thus forcing the Ukrainians to abandon operations of the checkpoint, so they make the Ukrainians look like the irresponsible party involved. When in actuality the Russians yet again are the instigation behind it.
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