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Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:31 pm to lsu777
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there is no real energy crisis lol.
Electricity prices are like five times the price in Italy than they were last year. Fire wood searches in Germany are up 400% from this time last year. This is just a fricking fact, and until you’re ready to talk civilly or read the fricking news, get the frick out.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:32 pm to AggieHank86
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Is there really any call for this sort of behavior?
Seriously, he’s acting like I raped his dog.
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:33 pm to OMLandshark
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Did frick your wife or something. Jesus fricking Christ, take a fricking chill pill for God’s sake.
na but you can frick off. your opinions suck dick and you flip flop like crazy
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:33 pm to AggieHank86
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Is there really any call for this sort of behavior?
absolutely there is, atleast with him
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:34 pm to lsu777
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lsu777
Eat a bag of dicks. There’s no justification behind that type of behavior. You’re a fricking a-hole.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:35 pm to OMLandshark
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Electricity prices are like five times the price in Italy than they were last year. Fire wood searches in Germany are up 400% from this time last year. This is just a fricking fact, and until you’re ready to talk civilly or read the fricking news, get the frick out.
ill talk civilly.....who caused this? was it ukraine that started this war?
do you beleive that the US sabatoged nord 1&2?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:36 pm to OMLandshark
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Eat a bag of dicks. There’s no justification behind that type of behavior. You’re a fricking a-hole.
quit being a whiny arse for getting called on your shite
did i go a little overboard....prolly but you have earned it over time
but i will apologize
ill leave you alone on the PT
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:36 pm to lsu777
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ill talk civilly.....who caused this? was it ukraine that started this war?
No, but that’s irrelevant in the energy crisis in Europe.
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do you beleive that the US sabatoged nord 1&2?
It’s possible. I see the motive for us to do it but see no motive for either Russia or Germany to do it. They’ve got the off switches, so I see no reason for either of those countries to do it.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:37 pm to lsu777
Fine, apology accepted.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:37 pm to lsu777
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we never told russia we would not expand nato
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The West has vigorously protested that no such deal was ever struck. However, hundreds of memos, meeting minutes and transcripts from U.S. archives indicate otherwise.
Old article, but relevant
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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NATO is not granting membership to a nation that is already at war.
Yeah Ukraine is going to have to make significant advances against Russia to even think it has a chance.
It already has. If you look at the maps from 3 months ago to today you will see Russia has lost much of the territory gained. Ukraine is poised to take Lyman any day and also the Kherson. There is also a real good chance of them taking back the Siverskyi Donets and Donbas regions in the next month.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:40 pm to OMLandshark
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It’s possible. I see the motive for us to do it but see no motive for either Russia or Germany to do it. They’ve got the off switches, so I see no reason for either of those countries to do it.
i actually agree here. it helps the US O&G companies for sure, i just dont think that we are at that point where we would do that. Maybe i am the one being the naive frick....but i just dont think it would happen. this isnt 1995 anymore, it would get out imo.
also agree russia doesnt have a reason to do it logically. but logic isnt their strong suit and putin needs support after the "partial mobilization" did not go how he thought it would in terms of public perception
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No, but that’s irrelevant in the energy crisis in Europe.
its not irrelevant. its what caused it....well not listening and continuing to get in bed with russia caused it.
sounds like our relationship with china to be honest
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:40 pm to AggieHank86
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and maybe even “volunteers.“
Not “volunteers” in the sense of the American yahoos with hunting rifles that we have seen for the last eight months, but “volunteers“ in the sense of the Germans who fought in the Spanish Civil War and the Chinese who fought in Korea.
Cut the national insignia off 100,00 NATO uniforms and “let” troop formations go do what they are trained to do.
I am certainly not advocating for that action, but it would not surprise me to see it happen sometime in the next year or two with troops from some NATO countries, especially those who see themselves as being the next in Russia’s sights.
Or they could up the ante to "military advisors".
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:44 pm to OMLandshark
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I see the motive for us to do it but see no motive for either Russia or Germany to do it. They’ve got the off switches, so I see no reason for either of those countries to do it.
Having the off switch doesn't remove the motivation for either county. Removing the option to flip the switch back on from the country's political calculus is the motivation.
At least hypothetically. I would be shocked beyond belief if any of the Europeans did so without informing the US ahead of time. I would be less surprised if we did it without informing the Europeans, but surprised nonetheless.
I would also be shocked if the parties don't already know who did it.
NATO (and presumably Russia) keeps a real close eye on the Baltic Sea. There’s about a zero percent chance that no one knows what happened.
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:45 pm to Bard
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Or they could up the ante to "military advisors".
The problem is that “advisers” are normally wearing the uniforms of their home countries. With “volunteers,” the home country preserves at least some degree of “plausible deniability.”
Fun fact. Approximately 15,000 German soldiers fought as “volunteers” on the Nationalist side of the Spanish Civil War. It is one reason that Germany had so many experienced fighter pilots at the start of World War II.
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:56 pm to upgrayedd
Lol, you’re a fool if you think Russia’s war is with Ukraine. Putin is a communist at heart who has always hated America and what we stand for. Putin is using Ukraine as a proxy for a large more ominous war.
Stop being a coward. We are going to war whether or not Ukraine joins NATO or not. History is repeating itself and biblical prophecies are being fulfilled. Our wealth and comfort in America is coming to an end. If you don’t know Jesus, you should start learning about him and build a relationship.
Stop being a coward. We are going to war whether or not Ukraine joins NATO or not. History is repeating itself and biblical prophecies are being fulfilled. Our wealth and comfort in America is coming to an end. If you don’t know Jesus, you should start learning about him and build a relationship.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:57 pm to Bard
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I haven't been involved in all the Russia threads, who has voiced support for going to war with them?
No one that I've seen wants war. Some people are all in on defending Ukraine which will amount to the same thing, but mostly people are indifferent and feel this is Europe's war. Of course the only reason to have that position ia because you love Putin.
The libertarians are, of course, both above it all and functionally useless, but that's all they've ever been.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:59 pm to LatinTiger30
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Lol, you’re a fool if you think Russia’s war is with Ukraine. Putin is a communist at heart who has always hated America and what we stand for. Putin is using Ukraine as a proxy for a large more ominous war.
And it appears to be failing
He is getting much more resistance than he anticipated and the world now knows that the United States would crush Russia life an ant if it came to it
Posted on 9/30/22 at 2:02 pm to LatinTiger30
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Putin is a communist at heart who has always hated America and what we stand for.
No one is buying the "They hate our freedom!" trope, buddy. Putin is not more communist than our government. We are.antagonizing him and inciting war. What he did in Ukraine is wrong, but we've been manipulating and provoking him for decades.
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