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re: Ukraine Kicked Our A$$ in War Games

Posted on 8/13/26 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58783 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 1:23 pm to
Consolidation among defense contractors.

Woolsely or Perry said so in an interview.

In a way, Panetta was more qualified than Hegseth. As Chief of Staff, he had experience running large organizations. Didn't say he was great.
Posted by rtr72
Alabama
Member since Aug 2011
912 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 1:32 pm to
That's a bunch of bullshite
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8078 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 1:32 pm to
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We produce 100,000 drones a year. They produce 5 million a year while getting bombed daily.


Consumer economy vs war economy.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76999 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 1:33 pm to
F@ck Panetta with a cactus.
Posted by olehickory1767
Member since Dec 2024
192 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 1:38 pm to
Vance will take his fingers out of their eyes as soon as your take your finger out of your arse.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
13198 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 1:44 pm to
So why don’t you move to Ukraine?…
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
13198 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 1:45 pm to
So why don’t you move to Ukraine?…
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43496 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 1:47 pm to
If we were a serious country we would have never allowed our chip manufacturing to leave the country and would be all in on drones. The flying type and the Terminator kind.

Instead of dumping money in USAID and funding other countries GDP, we could have put our stamp on the planet forever. Now people are realizing were still ahead, but not by much anymore.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41628 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 1:49 pm to
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ETA: put ANY troops against ANY drones / drone operators and it's stilll the same.. don't care if it's S Korea vs Brazil or Iraq vs Belgium.

Just a stupid, stupid premise for a story.


Exactly. OP should delete this absolutely retarded story
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
2158 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:01 pm to
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This may well be true but if I'm the top brass of the military I'm not going to show my best in a war games scenario. That gets saved for when it's the real thing


The problem with a tactical scenario like this is that it doesn't involve the other capabilities that the US military would likely deploy in a serious wartime environment.

What the US Navy deployed against the Iranian drones during the first few weeks of the war was something that they had absolutely no knowledge of.

Our platform based strategic capabilities have not even been close to having been fully utilized in the Iran conflict.


Posted by SparkyWilson
Member since May 2026
242 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:03 pm to
If you ain't f'ing up, you ain't learning anything. - Rodney Cathy, railroad contractor

It's no surprise they have the edge here; they have multiple years of drone combat experience on both offense and defense. This is a huge learning opportunity for our armed forces.
Posted by Average_Comments
ATX
Member since Jan 2024
318 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:09 pm to
WSJ libtard?!? ??
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
17920 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:12 pm to
How’s that possible, Hegseth can do pull-ups….
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
92387 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:17 pm to
Naw leave this shite up so the fools can crack Hegseth jokes

Clowns actually think civilian appointees develop doctrine and tactics
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
5689 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:19 pm to
We need to get off our arses and pour resources into research, development, training and equipment for counter-UAS. We are employing systems overseas and we better be prepared to employ them back home to protect military installation high value targets and critical infrastructure.
Posted by ShrimperDan
Fernandina
Member since Jul 2026
108 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:22 pm to
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People don't want to admit it, but the US got caught with our pants down when it came to the implementation and defense of small battlefield drones that we are now seing in both wars that are going on right now



No one knew how they would shape the battlefield until we got 2-3 years into the Ukraine war. I don't believe that is exclusively a US problem.

And a lot of these innovations you're seeing Ukraine supposedly come up with probably come from us, I would guess. Same thing when everyone is super shocked about Mossad's capabilities. Who do you think they work with?
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
11717 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:26 pm to
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WSJ:

FAKE NEWS.
Trump calls WSJ "chyna loving"...and he sued them for 10 BILLION DOLLARS.
Posted by Judnnc
Member since Jun 2025
875 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:33 pm to
we could just glass them. Not much they can do about that.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
17521 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 3:36 pm to
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Bring back meritocracy and competency and run this simulation in 5 -15 years.


We had similar problems at the start of WW2 - incompentency, arrogance, and outdated equipment caused us massive loses.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8857 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

They produce 5 million a year while getting bombed daily

I seriously doubt that
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