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re: Two Americans are dead and two have been found alive after being kidnapped entering Mexico

Posted on 3/7/23 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 12:46 pm to
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Was Joe Pesci down there?



Or was someone looking for Alfredo Garcia?


Could have been but this was about 50 years after the latter incident and 30 years after the first one LOL.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 12:47 pm to
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Generally speaking the cartel's don't just kill Americans...they do take American's hostage from time to time but simply grabbing 4 Americans and killing 2 while 2 escape is not typical. It either signals a significant change in the way they do "business" of there is more to this story than is known to the public at this time.


Could it have been mistaken identity? Did they think they were from a rival group or something?
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92542 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:02 pm to
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Maybe so, but the guy was a border patrol agent. If the government was going to suppress shite going on at the border, that is exactly the kind of thing they would suppress. I can tell you for a fact that there was a period while we were there that cartels were hanging bodies off of overpasses in El Paso. That picture was in the newspaper, and a friend saw them hanging on his way to work.


Your friend was misinformed because there weren't bodies hanging, it was mannequins

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He also hung two mannequins from the billboards, something that prompted panicked calls to 911 lines. Mexican drug cartels are known to hang their victims from bridges as a way to convey messages and the signs painted in huge white letters on black background caused many to speculate whether businesses were being extorted in El Paso, a city located across the border from Ciudad Juarez, Mexico.


LINK
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14680 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:08 pm to
I read about it in the El Paso newspaper, and then talked to my friend, who said he saw the bodies. This was sometime between 93-98.

Supposedly the cartel kingpin in El Paso got capped, and it started a gang war that went on for a year or two to find out who was going to take his place. It was a daily thing in El Paso for quite a while.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14680 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:09 pm to
This goes back farther than that. As I said it was in the paper.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13289 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:10 pm to
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I read about it in the El Paso newspaper, and then talked to my friend, who said he saw the bodies. This was sometime between 93-98.

Supposedly the cartel kingpin in El Paso got capped, and it started a gang war that went on for a year or two to find out who was going to take his place. It was a daily thing in El Paso for quite a while.


It wasn't unheard in Juarez. Nothing I can find of it having happened in El Paso. It could have though, but it seems like it'd be in the press....
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92902 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:17 pm to
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Diversity, equity and inclusion at a corporate level is far worse than cartel violence...cartel violence, at its worst, ends eventually for the individual....the kind of violence visited up folks in corporate sensitivity training never goes away....


Yea if someone murders your child it ends with the death of your child
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13289 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:22 pm to
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Could it have been mistaken identity? Did they think they were from a rival group or something?


Probably could be. It seems that they may have had a chunck of cash on them. If so and they were indeed under the impression that they were there for a medical procedure its entirely possible they were set up from the get go, got "cold feet" and were simply killed for the money. The medical tourism industry is huge in Mexico but it is not a cash and carry business....it is either bill your American insurance carrier or pay by credit card / wire transfer or even an installment plan, believe it or not. I know a bunch of people who have had medical procedurs in border towns, including myself, and none that I can remember was told to bring cash.
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
11789 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:31 pm to
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No...this is the type of thing that Democrats will use to push more Universal health care saying that they would be alive if the procedure was free here in the US (even though it is plastic surgery which would never be free)


Good call, that's exactly what Karine John Pierre did. Along with blaming republicans
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
19779 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:46 pm to
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The American Mafia used to have a rule that you didn't go after cops or government officials
They even had that rule on "The Wire". You don't shoot "Downtown" Clay Davis.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 1:47 pm
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18747 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:04 pm to
If the US retaliates.....isnt this what Putin did?

zingleberry has been killing russians in Ukraine for years now, innocent russians, Putin got fed up and put a stop to it.

Thats a far cry from some US drug dealers involved in a bad deal south of the border. So we would be worse than Putin.

Would the world sanction us?
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18747 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:16 pm to
Nobody truly believes this story that four people got in a car and drove 1500 miles to cross the border, for one of them to get a tummy tuck, with cash and NC plates.

Id venture to guess, after you threw in the meal and lodging for four people, the wear and tear on the car, the gas, and the time off from work......You could have rented a private jet, flown down and taken a limo across the border.

Or perhaps they were up to something nafarious, hmmmm.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
13854 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:04 pm to
or to get prescription pain pills by the 100's
Posted by IceFrogBC
Member since Jan 2021
170 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:11 pm to
Mexico is among the 15 largest economies in the world and the second largest economy in Latin America. The economy has hardly "bottomed out".
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
12529 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:13 pm to
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The four Americans were kidnapped in Mexico after traveling over the border so that one could get a cut-price tummy tuck.


It was a butt lift. Get your facts straight.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103130 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:13 pm to
In the mid-90s, the Mexican economy went directly into the shitter compared to the US for several reasons including exchange rate.

Canada had a lot of the same issues.


That is why a lot of professional athletes didn’t want to work in either country if they could make a living in the US or elsewhere instead.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103130 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:14 pm to
Depending on the woman, it could have been a front-butt lift.
Posted by IceFrogBC
Member since Jan 2021
170 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:20 pm to
Not likely...









NY Post

Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6129 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:22 pm to
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Will the BLM crowd, Al Sharpton's of the world go out into the streets and protest Mexico?

Only if the media can lighten the complexion of the cartels photos and claim they are caucasian.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103130 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:24 pm to
I think I understand why the Cartel thought they were Haitian drug runners.
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