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re: TV Shows Like "Friends" & "Seinfeld"; Could They Debut Today in Their Original Form?

Posted on 1/31/21 at 10:40 am to
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
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Posted on 1/31/21 at 10:40 am to
Well not so much the cast as the content.

For example, I'm shocked I still get to see the Soup Nazi episodes, or the Cigar container episode. I'm shocked the Left hasn't cancelled those already.

Seinfeld had a TON of non-PC jokes sprinkled everywhere too.

Its only a matter of time.
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 1/31/21 at 10:43 am to
Some stuff like the Puerto Rican Day parade episode presaged exactly why Jerry bailed.

OTOH, Elaine and her boyfriend both thinking they were in an interracial relationship when they were both white is even funnier today in this climate.
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 1/31/21 at 10:45 am to

Its only a matter of time.


Yes, the free speech Nazi's will eventually get around to it. They have to make sure they knock down all the Abraham Lincoln statues first, though.

Not to mention dynamiting Mount Rushmore (the idiots simply haven't thought about this. Yet.).
Posted by trinidadtiger
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Posted on 1/31/21 at 10:46 am to
How about Mel Brooks? To watch Blazing Saddles you have to close the curtains and not speak about it after seeing it.

Do they even keep it in a special section for rental like porn?
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
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Posted on 1/31/21 at 10:46 am to
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OTOH, Elaine and her boyfriend both thinking they were in an interracial relationship when they were both white is even funnier today in this climate.


They were definitely ahead of their time. Sad when you realize that satire would become reality.
Posted by Lige
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Posted on 1/31/21 at 10:48 am to
I watched the Seinfeld episode “The Indian giver” recently. They certainly couldn’t air that one nowadays.
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 1/31/21 at 10:49 am to
Mel was helped by having both final cut and having the biggest black comedian in the business, Richard Pryor, on his side.

There is a story out there of WB having a meeting with Brooks after they saw a test print where they gave him a laundry list of changes they want made.

He took them all down in a notebook then promptly threw the notebook in a trash can because he had final cut.
Posted by Seldom Seen
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Posted on 1/31/21 at 10:50 am to
Seinfeld and Friends weren't "all-white" though most of the cast were "fellow-whites".
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 1/31/21 at 10:53 am to
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Mel was helped by having both final cut and having the biggest black comedian in the business, Richard Pryor, on his side.


Pryor was supposed to star in the film. But because his cocaine addiction was out-of-control at that point, Brooks reluctantly had to re-cast the role. Biggest break Cleavon Little ever got. He did a fine job, but Pryor would've been incredible in that role.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/31/21 at 10:54 am to

Posted by KCT
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Posted on 1/31/21 at 10:58 am to


Oh, it was definitely planned. Now we have Gillette commercials with black men keeping white men from harassing women. Real-life statistics be damned.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
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Posted on 1/31/21 at 11:01 am to
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Pryor was supposed to star in the film. But because his cocaine addiction was out-of-control at that point, Brooks reluctantly had to re-cast the role. Biggest break Cleavon Little ever got. He did a fine job, but Pryor would've been incredible in that role


...a team up with Gene wilder. That's crazy, in a good way.
Posted by CountryVolFan
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Posted on 1/31/21 at 11:04 am to
There was all kinds of Gay stuff in Friends...
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 1/31/21 at 11:07 am to
Wilder wasn’t supposed to be in it either.

Gig Young was hired for the part but was unable to pull it off. IIRC, he was an alcoholic and trying to do the scene where the Waco Kid was hanging off the bunk made him physically ill.


Wilder got the job on short notice in part because he and Mel did The Producers together, though I think this predated Young Frankenstein by a few months.
Posted by Bumble Bee
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/31/21 at 11:09 am to
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We skipped Master of My Domain. Because mom said no way.


I'm Out!
Posted by Tactical1
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Posted on 1/31/21 at 11:13 am to
Yes
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 1/31/21 at 11:19 am to
As innocuous as they want you to believe it was, "Friends" fostered an immoral cultural shift.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/31/21 at 11:22 am to
I started watching The Goldbergs last week, and there are things in season 1 (2013) that would not be allowed on abc today.

Exponential decline.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/31/21 at 11:25 am to
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As innocuous as they want you to believe it was, "Friends" fostered an immoral cultural shift.


I hated that show when it was on the air. It just irked me for some reason. I thought the characters' use of "so" was the beginning of the end of the English language.

I later appreciated some of the humor.

I loved Seinfeld because it showed the absurdity of nihilism, whether consciously or not.
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 1/31/21 at 11:27 am to
Shows like that were not “Blackish” enough.

Or gayish enough.....
Or lesbianish enough.....
Or transish enough....
Or......
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