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re: Turtle releases impeachment trial rules
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:04 pm to cajunangelle
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:04 pm to cajunangelle
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"After reading his resolution, it's clear Senator McConnell is hell-bent on making it much more difficult to get witnesses and documents and intent on rushing the trial through," Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said in a statement. "On something as important as impeachment, Senator McConnell's resolution is nothing short of a national disgrace."
fricking rich as hell for any scum-sucking prog fascist to accuse the pubs of rushing anything with respect for this farce of an impeachment.
The best thing about this all is that most of the main dim players, like Schumer and Naddler, are on record during the Clinton impeachment literally stating the opposite of their current positions, which will be continually cited to rebut their hypocritical asses.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:04 pm to OmniPundit
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No surprise Chuckie's upset; McConnell did VERY well. Time restraints for everything. No stalling, grandiose speeches.
This nonsense has already gone on for too long.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:05 pm to cajunangelle
quote:Mitch would not have published this proposed resolution, if he did not have the votes to pass it tomorrow. He has doubtless been negotiating with Collins, Romney, et al for weeks, and this is the result.
You are spot on, Turtle even having a vote on witnesses and subpoenaed docs is gracious. It looks like (not quite sure yet) That barring any surprises Turtle has the votes to essentially dismiss with a yay or nay immediate vote after they hear from the Democrats lawyers and Trump's lawyers. This is another reason CNN/Schumer/The media/DNC are fuming.
Sounds like Turtle told the Romney's to hear them all out and barring no surprises he has the votes to dismiss. (Maybe Romney saw his poll numbers?)
It is not “gracious.”. It is the compromise that was necessary to get those folks on board.
Trump supporters wanted te ability to present a motion to dismiss. My guess is that they horse-traded to get it by allowing a vote on presentation of witnesses.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:08 pm to SSpaniel
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Democrats argue that would leave them arguing their case into the middle of the night and into the next morning, pushing the debate to the "dead of night,"
Like what nadless did then calling recess until the next morning.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:12 pm to AggieHank86
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Mitch would not have published this proposed resolution, if he did not have the votes to pass it tomorrow. He has doubtless been negotiating with Collins, Romney, et al for weeks, and this is the result.
It is not “gracious.”. It is the compromise that was necessary to get those folks on board.
I think I agree with everything you stated, Hank. And you weren't really a dick about it either.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:15 pm to AggieHank86
In my fast typing of what I thought was happening. I said the following...
I had to re read it twice in thinking I screwed up in the terminology.
I didn't. It is Democrats lawyers...
Democrats lawyers.
Name an impeachment that it is this way. As impeachments are never to be partisan to be called democrats lawyers. All young people reading, please know this... impeachments are not partisan usually. And NEVER should a Speaker have a parade and hand out pens.
I hope lawfare blogger lawyers get their arse handed to them by Jay Sekulow alone.
quote:
the Democrats lawyers and Trump's lawyers.
I had to re read it twice in thinking I screwed up in the terminology.
I didn't. It is Democrats lawyers...
Democrats lawyers.
Name an impeachment that it is this way. As impeachments are never to be partisan to be called democrats lawyers. All young people reading, please know this... impeachments are not partisan usually. And NEVER should a Speaker have a parade and hand out pens.
I hope lawfare blogger lawyers get their arse handed to them by Jay Sekulow alone.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:17 pm to cajunangelle
quote:We have had three presidential impeachments in our history, and all three have been hyper-partisan.
impeachments are not partisan usually.
Lower-level impeachments generally have not.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:23 pm to cajunangelle
LOL at Senate Dems complaining about 12 hour days, calling it a "total sham,"
when regular working man types pull 12 shifts on the reg.
when regular working man types pull 12 shifts on the reg.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:24 pm to PhDoogan
quote:If you stop and think about it, I think you will find that I am very seldom rude to anyone who was not rude to me first, and that I very seldom offer any personal insult to anyone who did not first offer one to me.
PhDoogan
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:26 pm to AggieHank86
You misunderstood or I explained wrong. By the time Presidential impeachments hit the ground running they have both D and R support. Clinton was impeached with 5 democrats. He was not removed because it was not bipartisan like Nixon.
But actual criminal charges were presented (Mueller did not charge Trump) The democrats composed and charged Trump is more what I meant.
And what Pelosi did with the fake solemn prayer crap and pen celebratory selfies was wrong and unprecedented.
But actual criminal charges were presented (Mueller did not charge Trump) The democrats composed and charged Trump is more what I meant.
And what Pelosi did with the fake solemn prayer crap and pen celebratory selfies was wrong and unprecedented.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:27 pm to roadGator
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CNN, if they care about being a real news agency, shouldn’t be livid. They should just report the rules
That^^^
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:27 pm to Perfect Circle
Now the dems will ask to be recused so they can go to Iowa.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:37 pm to OmniPundit
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and have been deposed.
This is importeant to me - otherwise they can spring a witness spewing hear-say and outright lies, along with their presumptions - Which is why NEW witnesses at this point are stupid.
Must have some insight into what they are going to say - who/where they got their info from, and fully explore the motivation for bringing it forward at the late date.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:39 pm to cajunangelle
So are the Republicans going to call Biden to testify the meaning of his video and his son's dealings in the Ukraine? Seems relevant to me.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:43 pm to cajunangelle
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Sounds like Turtle told the Romney's to hear them all out and barring no surprises he has the votes to dismiss. (Maybe Romney saw his poll numbers?)
Maybe Romney was informed that the extended Family that had ties to Ukrainian money kickbacks...would be called to testify.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:44 pm to AggieHank86
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I think you will find that I am very seldom rude to anyone who was not rude to me first
I'll take you at your word. My jest was an observation that you tend to ruffle some feathers and, IMO, it is likely as much your delivery as the content of the opinion expressed.
At any rate, you are correct that Mitch would not have released what he has if he did not have the vote.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:45 pm to RougeDawg
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So are the Republicans going to call Biden to testify the meaning of his video and his son's dealings in the Ukraine? Seems relevant to me.
"It's not relevant/relevant"
W. Goldberg
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