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re: Trying to stop child trafficking is now "Qanon-adjacent" and "paranoid"
Posted on 7/9/23 at 2:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 7/9/23 at 2:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Roger entertains me.
Attracted your autistic arse like a moth to a flame.
Everyone but him is on the government dole, and everyone smarter than him (most of the population) is "autistic."
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 2:54 pm to AggieHank86
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Everyone but him is on the government dole,
You talk like a 14 year old girl.
Yes, nerd it is possible to go through life without accepting gubment welfare. Shocking to people like yourself..
This post was edited on 7/9/23 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 7/9/23 at 2:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:SFP, you can remind Toomer of this fact hourly for the next year, but he will never acknowledge that he pulled that nonsense out of his arse.
You posted a post of mine yesetrday in response to a comment about me being a pro-Vaxxer, but failed to read (as usual) the post of mine was from March of 2020, when no vaccine existed.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 2:58 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Good Lord, you DO realize (I hope) that the medieval proverb about "grasping for straws" is not remotely related to plastic soft drink straws?
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:00 pm to Laugh More
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First thought of that pic and I thought they got Lincoln Osiris to cameo
I thought the exact same thing
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:For pedophilia, stolen adolescence, and mitigating the subsequent psychological PTSD issues, it's worth it.
The question is if it's worth using 100 hours of your time to find that needle
quote:You probably have client experiences in mind that I'm oblivious to. But, for example, I don't see where new laws, or new agencies are required to run down the worst offenders in the Epstein registry. I don't see where new laws are required to track down and prosecute purveyors of 14y/o's in a trailer (as in the accounts of Rosa and Maria) undergoing multiple rapes/day. I don't know how a victim ever recovers from that.
and you don't risk the government creating a new needle finding agency with new needle finding laws so they can continue to spy on you
What part of this am I missing?
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:17 pm to NC_Tigah
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For pedophilia, stolen adolescence, and mitigating the subsequent psychological PTSD issues, it's worth it.
Even if you could use that same time to help exponentially more victims of pedophilia, stolen adolescence, etc.?
This is a zero sum game. We only have so many resources we can use. I'm arguing to spend them helping the largest population of victims.
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But, for example, I don't see where new laws, or new agencies are required to run down the worst offenders in the Epstein registry.
That's not related to the larger point I was making. No additional laws would be necessary for that micro example. My comments were about the macro.
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. I don't see where new laws are required to track down and prosecute purveyors of 14y/o's in a trailer (as in the accounts of Rosa and Maria) undergoing multiple rapes/day. I don't know how a victim ever recovers from that.
That actually does highlight an issue. That's an example of international trafficking, but the laws/interpretations using that (horrible) example would be used for domestic trafficking. THAT is when the issues start.
Kind of like using overdoses to expand power/authority with the War on Drugs. TERRIBLE story with lots of unintended consequences with the state response.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I mean I'll take the label, but it quickly moved from "moral panic" to "reality" in a week or 2.
You were as easily duped as any of the “Q-Anon” followers you hold in such low regard.
This post was edited on 7/9/23 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:20 pm to AggieHank86
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Good Lord, you DO realize (I hope) that the medieval proverb about "grasping for straws" is not remotely related to plastic soft drink straws?
Yes, Hank I was aware the phrase predated plastic drinking straws and the meme was thus both metaphorically and idiomatically an anachronism. Thank you for the correction though. I’m just honored to have you following along at home!
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:24 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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You were as easily duped as any the “Q-Anon” followers you hold in such low regard.
Duped...how?
That I feared the government would use laws on the books to invade our lives? I mean...that actually happened.
Again, you can call it a moral panic for being worried about it a week or 2 before it happened, but, ultimately, I was right
QAnon has not exactly been as reliable in its claims.
This post was edited on 7/9/23 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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trip Clubs (I briefly worked int he industry) and onlyfans are loaded with trafficked women. They usually do massive sweeps and pick up a bunch of low levels, the wealthy party circuits are off limits..
I agree. I think that’s the area that has generated the greatest area of populist concern. The Us has a larger degree of sexual exploitation in child exploitation than most countries. The fact that Sri Lanka may have more exploitation in knitting factories is just misdirection by those who want to dissect a discussion so thin for the sole purpose of winning an internet argument
You note the more important issue. Privilege has created a two tier justice system, and that has evolved to where the most vulnerable portions of our population have been exploited. The prosecution of many have been delayed or avoided
The movie critiques have been interesting. It’s a pretty straightforward action flick, but there is an emotional reaction to both the actor and theme of the movie.
This thread is even beyond that overreaction. Recent posts state their basis of their splophistrry is government overreaction. Even the biased reviews don’t even raise any alarm on “government overreach” based on the films popularity. Indeed, even the most concerned citizens don’t seem to support government overreach, but just a lack of government support of some activities. Most persons just seek equitable prosecution of the laws
This defense of purported misattribution also seems pretextual. No one is particularly interested in parsing the issue to where we only have to agree with some wild, amorphous, and unpublished manifesto of public policy. Is this just an intro to brag about the Flynn effect on certain adolescent test scores?
I’m a skeptic by nature. I don’t particularly care if someone is 6’4”. It’s unlikely to be relevant to anything I’m interested in talking about
Now if someone claims they can squat 700, and they haven’t had any particular athletic accomplishment, I’m more likely to believe the discussions on Biden and Hamlin body doubles than this assertion
There are lots of world class athletes that can’t even come close to that mark.
This post was edited on 7/9/23 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:51 pm to dukkbill
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This thread is even beyond that overreaction. Recent posts state their basis of their splophistrry is government overreaction. Even the biased reviews don’t even raise any alarm on “government overreach”
Thanks for confirming that I am not, in fact, regurgitating MSM talking points
Please don't tell Rog
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:52 pm to stout
Where is the link to the article? I would love to read what this dude has to say. I get that the headline is clickbait, I want to see what his thinking is?
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:54 pm to NC_Tigah
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For pedophilia, stolen adolescence, and mitigating the subsequent psychological PTSD issues, it's worth it.
You are correct. It is reasonable policy to spend more public resources on protecting the portions of the population most vulnerable than those who can defend themselves. Our laws reflect that fact and removing that from the analysis shows a lack of understanding of both public sentiment and efficiency
More important, as you state in your follow up, there isn’t this alleged discrepancy in the time required to police this activity. We have a line on legitimate inquiry that could be followed
Posted on 7/9/23 at 4:05 pm to tzimme4
That dude is the exact AI image of a pedophile.
This post was edited on 7/9/23 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 7/9/23 at 4:09 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Where is the link to the article? I would love to read what this dude has to say.
LINK
Just fear prn for Progs and SFP, the libertarian
LINK
quote:
That’s not, strictly speaking, accurate – Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny had already been out for five days, the first three of which out-earned Sound of Freedom’s opening-day take, when the new independent thriller came to theaters on Tuesday. But for a fleeting moment this past Fourth of July, while the intended audience of Indy’s latest outing was presumably spending time with their families and friends at barbecues or in other social situations, an unoccupied fandom rallied by the star Jim Caviezel claimed the day with a $14.2m gross versus Dial of Destiny’s $11.7m. No matter that these figures require selective, almost willfully misleading framing to allow for the David-and-Goliath narrative trumpeted by supporters; as the copious tweets accusing Disney of being in cahoots with a global cabal of high-power pedophiles make clear, the truth doesn’t have too much purchase around these parts.
However one chooses to slice it, Sound of Freedom has over-delivered on expectations in dollars and cents, a feat of profitability uncommon for a comparatively low-budget production without a major Hollywood-led promotional campaign. Judging by the robust round of applause that concluded the fully-seated screening I attended on Wednesday evening – and this, in the liberal Sodom of Manhattan! – it would seem that the folks at the two-year-old Angel Studios have tapped into a substantial and eagerly marshaled viewership.
Following that money leads back to a more unsavory network of astroturfed boosterism among the far-right fringe, a constellation of paranoids now attempting to spin a cause célèbre out of a movie with vaguely simpatico leanings. The uninitiated may not pick up on the red-yarn-and-corkboard subtext pinned onto a mostly straightforward extraction mission in South America, pretty much Taken with a faint whiff of something noxious in the air. Those tuned in to the eardrum-perforating frequency of QAnon, however, have heeded a clarion call that leads right to the multiplex.
Just fear prn for Progs and SFP, the libertarian
This post was edited on 7/9/23 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:02 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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We have SFP & Hank….we only need cwill to complete the statist clown trifecta!
Most people, even hardcore progressive liberals, have enough sense to not take the side of child traffickers and pedophiles on a public forum like this. Most, but not all.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:07 pm to captdalton
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Most people, even hardcore progressive liberals, have enough sense to not take the side of child traffickers and pedophiles on a public forum like this
Literally every poster on this board has
Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:21 pm to dukkbill
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I’m a skeptic by nature.
I am as well, but having lived in the wild side for a few years, I can tell you there's an incredibly shitty underworld out there with lots of money and no conscience
Its huge
Posted on 7/9/23 at 6:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
I think this is a matter of perspective.
You think that you and Hank have taken the high ground and are now looking down at all the dumb rednecks and peasants who are just too stupid to understand your vapid arguments.
All the while, absolutely everyone else is looking up wondering “why did those two pedophile groomers climb a tree?”.
You think that you and Hank have taken the high ground and are now looking down at all the dumb rednecks and peasants who are just too stupid to understand your vapid arguments.
All the while, absolutely everyone else is looking up wondering “why did those two pedophile groomers climb a tree?”.
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