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re: Trying To Sort Out Beef Prices Since DJT Wants to Import South American Beef
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:29 am to Jjdoc
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:29 am to Jjdoc
From everything I'm learning, it's the packing houses that are controlling prices.
There are thousands of individual/private companies in the U.S. meat packing and processing business, but the market is dominated by just four giants (Tyson, JBS, Cargill, and National Beef) that control about 85% of fed cattle slaughter.
85% is virtually total control. I did read where In 2025, Walmart opened its first owned-and-operated beef processing and packaging facility in Olathe, Kansas and another was opened in 2020 in Ga. I'm sure those big 4 aren't happy about that
There are thousands of individual/private companies in the U.S. meat packing and processing business, but the market is dominated by just four giants (Tyson, JBS, Cargill, and National Beef) that control about 85% of fed cattle slaughter.
85% is virtually total control. I did read where In 2025, Walmart opened its first owned-and-operated beef processing and packaging facility in Olathe, Kansas and another was opened in 2020 in Ga. I'm sure those big 4 aren't happy about that
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:36 am to TechBullDawg
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bringing in shite fish from Asia with all its quality issues.
no schit "no kidding that's a cow joe you can trust me! that's not carp it's 100% real cow!"
Posted on 11/18/25 at 8:40 am to CU_Tigers4life
Past low beef prices crushed the smaller producers and they sold out and either quit or moved on to something else.
Prices today would have sustained them and they could have added to the supply, but they are gone and not coming back. Even if they wanted to. The entry price to restart would be certain bankruptcy down the road when the prices fall again.
Our family, in the past, beginning with my grandfather had a hundred or so and the operation never made money. The sole reason for the farm’s existence was a tax write off of dad’s and my uncle’s actual businesses. When they retired, the write off was not necessary any longer, and the entire herd was sold. My brothers and I were not in a position to carry it on as my uncles had the luxury of being able to attend to the farm in the morning and evening as they lived amongst it and they had the liberty to come and go at will. I do not, currently, live there and was at Mississippi State when the transition took place anyway.
You can rinse and repeat this story among many smaller past producers.
Prices today would have sustained them and they could have added to the supply, but they are gone and not coming back. Even if they wanted to. The entry price to restart would be certain bankruptcy down the road when the prices fall again.
Our family, in the past, beginning with my grandfather had a hundred or so and the operation never made money. The sole reason for the farm’s existence was a tax write off of dad’s and my uncle’s actual businesses. When they retired, the write off was not necessary any longer, and the entire herd was sold. My brothers and I were not in a position to carry it on as my uncles had the luxury of being able to attend to the farm in the morning and evening as they lived amongst it and they had the liberty to come and go at will. I do not, currently, live there and was at Mississippi State when the transition took place anyway.
You can rinse and repeat this story among many smaller past producers.
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 8:43 am
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:19 am to CU_Tigers4life
As someone who grew up in a farming family I can tell you that farmers and ranchers only care about their bottomline. Yes they have struggled for years and even now middlemen and others in the Big part of BigAg and BigRanch are making more than the producers are. However, if farmers and ranchers come out against something they are not looking out for the American consumer when they formed their opinion.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:23 am to winkchance
We get a half a beef every year from a local farmer who also butchers his own cows. Great deal and I couldn't imagine going to the super market for this stuff now.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:44 am to CU_Tigers4life
I was blessed to make acquaintance with a local beef producer and now have a steady supply of red meat whenever I need it at a very reasonable price. Straight from green pastures in Oklahoma Frontier Country.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:49 am to Ozarkshillbilly
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We get a half a beef every year from a local farmer who also butchers his own cows. Great deal and I couldn't imagine going to the super market for this stuff now.
This is the way to go. Freezers ain't all that expensive.
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 9:50 am
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:24 am to CU_Tigers4life
I seem to recall the liberal bleeding hearts have been trying to kill the cattle industry for many years. This goes back to when Oprah had a show and she was part of that effort to destroy cattle ranches.
My guess is that the Biden auto pen put a lot of those same people in positions that went out of their way to hurt the cattle industry. Also, the whole liberal wage increase for no reason also has driven up prices across the whole economy so the cost of business here is now just high all over.
My guess is that the Biden auto pen put a lot of those same people in positions that went out of their way to hurt the cattle industry. Also, the whole liberal wage increase for no reason also has driven up prices across the whole economy so the cost of business here is now just high all over.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:29 am to CU_Tigers4life
Your not considering how much of the steer if edible. Plus all the people who get a cut before it gets to you . Trump needs to push to make it easier for small farmers . Having a lot of small farmers keep it local and makes it harder for a few companies to run up prices . The way it’s going buying 1/2 cow is going to more and popular .
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:29 am to ronricks
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Went to WalMart again yesterday. No price change from last week. Ribeye's still $19.97 for a 3 pack and the single grass fed's are $21.xx
3 ribeyes for $19.97? I’m seeing closer to $20ea at my local Walmart
Posted on 11/18/25 at 10:54 am to tjv305
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Your not considering how much of the steer if edible. Plus all the people who get a cut before it gets to you . Trump needs to push to make it easier for small farmers . Having a lot of small farmers keep it local and makes it harder for a few companies to run up prices . The way it’s going buying 1/2 cow is going to more and popular .
On the previous page I talked about this to a similar post to you:
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Keep in mind that virtually all of the steer is used and monetized—meat, fat, hide, bones, organs, even blood. Packers profit not only from beef cuts but also from by-products, so the real markup comes from consolidation and retail margins, not from waste. That’s why ground beef can sell for $6–7 a pound even when ranchers are paid closer to $2 on the live weight
Just becaue parts aren't edible doesn't mean those parts are discarded/
Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:29 am to Demonbengal
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Argentina would be the next best source
I know! They invented delicious chimichurri!
Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:57 am to CU_Tigers4life
If I’m a cattle rancher, and I raise 10 cows and get $10 for each one, I’m used to getting $100. And I need $100 to stay in business.
The drought caused me to only be able to have 5 cows because I didn’t have enough grass to feed them. Now I need to charge you $20 for each one so I can make $100.
If you bring in more beef (from other countries), then the price goes back to $10 (due to supply and demand). Now, with only 5 cows, I only make $50.
The drought caused me to only be able to have 5 cows because I didn’t have enough grass to feed them. Now I need to charge you $20 for each one so I can make $100.
If you bring in more beef (from other countries), then the price goes back to $10 (due to supply and demand). Now, with only 5 cows, I only make $50.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 12:12 pm to Lugnut
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everyone loves those shrimp and catfish imported from Indonesia and Vietnam so it should be just the same right! Oh wait…beef doesn’t have label of origin laws sooo…
We don’t have label of origins laws on catfish either outside of the southeastern states that produce catfish. Been fighting that battle for years trying to get it done. And the southern states with COOL laws don’t really strictly enforce them you pretty much have to report it.
You see COO on products in the grocery stores but I’m referring to restaurants. Restaurants rarely say on the menu where their seafood comes from
Posted on 11/18/25 at 12:17 pm to CU_Tigers4life
US cattle herd culling is responsible for the current skyrocketing US beef prices. It was primarily due to avoidable supply chain disruptions and covid meat processing plant closures. Culling in 2022-23 was exceptionally high, so that by the time Trump took office, the U.S. cattle herd had been reduced to its lowest level since 1951.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 2:19 pm to Lugnut
Why doesnt beef have label of origin laws?
Posted on 11/18/25 at 2:21 pm to Eurocat
Figured you would be all up the that WW2 survivor thread you barfed up this morning.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 2:24 pm to CU_Tigers4life
I don't think the problem with importing food is really about the prices.
I think the problem with importing food is that we become reliant on other countries to the feed the population. And honestly, with the resources we have in this country, there is no reason for it.
I think the problem with importing food is that we become reliant on other countries to the feed the population. And honestly, with the resources we have in this country, there is no reason for it.
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 11/18/25 at 2:30 pm to Jbird
The funny thing is, people are just assuming that I support the guy. Where did I say that? I didn't. I just was posting it because undeniably it is interesting to see that ICE IS NOT NOT just targeting hispanics like Democrats claim.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 2:30 pm to CU_Tigers4life
Beef industry is for Trump making export deals but against imporation of beef. Who woulda thunk it?
These big 4 packing plants need to get broken up. Hopefully the DOJ anit-trust investigations gets things going in the right direction.
These big 4 packing plants need to get broken up. Hopefully the DOJ anit-trust investigations gets things going in the right direction.
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