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re: Trumps truth social post about Iran

Posted on 5/23/26 at 5:59 pm to
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 5/23/26 at 5:59 pm to
And you’re just as wrong as he is.
Posted by DD_Rolltide
Member since Oct 2024
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Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:00 pm to
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Good Lord!


In his State of the Union this year he said, and I quote, "I will never allow the world's number one sponsor of terror to have a nuclear weapon".

Are you calling Trump a liar?
Posted by DeBoar
Cullman, AL
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

In his State of the Union this year he said, and I quote, "I will never allow the world's number one sponsor of terror to have a nuclear weapon". Are you calling Trump a liar?


Wait now they have nukes?
Posted by DD_Rolltide
Member since Oct 2024
1031 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:02 pm to
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Wait now they have nukes?


I'm referring to him quoting my claim that Iran is the greatest terror sponsor in the world as though it was ridiculous, not a nuclear bomb.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:02 pm to
good one.

They won’t even get it though.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:03 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/23/26 at 6:07 pm
Posted by DeBoar
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Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:04 pm to
“Why did we even mess with Iran when they don’t have nukes” - bots
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:05 pm to
Exactly. What a stupid game these morons are playing.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

And you’re just as wrong as he is.


So you don’t think they will use the fact they shut down the strait and had Trump begging to open the strait as leverage and or deterrence in the future?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36791 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:06 pm to
“Iran has nothing to do with us, and we don’t have anything to do with Iran. Get out of the Middle East for good!!”

Later on in the day……

“They have the ability to shut down the world’s oil and greatly affect our economy!!”



Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:07 pm to
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He’s clearly saying that now that Iran has proven it can shut down the strait the threat of doing it again and provided the same effect on international relations of the old “nuclear deterrent” argument of I need a nuke so people will take what I say seriously and I can’t get threatened and pushed around.


Iran has proven they can control the strait asymmetrically. So now when they get a nuke, they not only have a sword of Damocles to hang over our ME allies’ heads, they can shut the strait down and hold our allies and presence in the ME at nuclear gunpoint too.

I didn’t want Trump to this but he’s unwound something here that is deleterious to US hegemony. For all the bluster of being a hard arse, he blinked and did not do the hard thing.
This post was edited on 5/23/26 at 6:17 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

In his State of the Union this year he said, and I quote, "I will never allow the world's number one sponsor of terror to have a nuclear weapon".

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477366 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

The effect a nuclear strike

A. This was clearly Israel's argument for Trump to intervene and us cutting them out shows me I don't know if we believe them anymore

B. I was discussing deterrence, which is what nukes are actually used for.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

Closing down the strait gives them the same sort of deterrent power than a nuclear weapon would
Yikes!

Yes it does.

Which is a wake up to those cuckolded nations being cuckolded.

Again, the ONLY power to close down the strait is that which we've electively granted.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:15 pm to
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Yes it does.

Which is a wake up to those cuckolded nations being cuckolded


They didn't start this war

We did

Your cope-spin is still irrational and irrelevant
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139118 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

They didn't start this war
THEY CLOSED THE STRAIT!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477366 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:18 pm to
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THEY CLOSED THE STRAIT!

No. Iran did because of us

We couldn't open it
Posted by baw ex machina
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:18 pm to
MBS is the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:18 pm to
quote:

SlowFlowPro



We know what thread this guy is going to avoid tonight
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477366 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

We know what thread this guy is going to avoid tonight


Show some balls and state your position
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