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re: Trump's section 301 tariffs were successful. The data proves it.

Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:34 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260947 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:34 am to
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So TDS cases like you bitched the tariffs would drive up prices and now when it actually made prices fall


Let me Mansplain. Yall are playing checkers while the world is playing chess. These businessmen are 10 steps ahead of MAGA.

You people were told tariffs would create jobs in America and were in fact, just a defacto tax for wrong think.

Markets adjust to central planning, which is why communism fails. The markets do what they do, and manufacturing is never coming back like you people want. When you have inefficiencies, markets adapt to fill them.

Y'all are chasing ghosts while the smarter people around you are profiting on your ghost chasing.
This post was edited on 3/11/24 at 9:38 am
Posted by rnojoman
Harlan
Member since Nov 2023
102 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:47 am to
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Y'all are chasing ghosts while the smarter people around you are profiting on your ghost chasing.


MAGA in a nutshell
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5042 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:49 am to
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His proposal is economic punishment from China


What part of "universal" don't you understand. He wants tariffs on "all imports" not just those from China.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12918 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:50 am to
Yes, the tariffs were so good for China that China fought against them tooth and nail. I also had forgotten about all the massive unemployment under Trump since you said that tariffs kill jobs. Thanks for explaining everything. You definitely make a lot of sense and don’t seem like a bitter TDS case.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68761 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:53 am to
Well on reddit i saw the opposite.


Now this was a report by two economists from ucla, so i have to believe there was bias in that reporting.

And when they lead off with , tax cuts for the rich... you know you are in for some frickery. Because im not rich and my taxes were cut.




Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68761 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:55 am to
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manufacturing is never coming back like you people want.


When Joe biden was touting all the manufacturing jobs he created did you come on here and say that was bullshite or did you nod in agreement?

Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71502 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:55 am to
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Yes, the tariffs were so good for China that China fought against them tooth and nail. I also had forgotten about all the massive unemployment under Trump since you said that tariffs kill jobs. Thanks for explaining everything. You definitely make a lot of sense and don’t seem like a bitter TDS case.


Like I said it hilarious seeing idiots like Roger argue this when they’re using basic textbook principles. Economics is all about variables for models, this discussion is skimming and political
This post was edited on 3/11/24 at 9:56 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21820 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:56 am to
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What part of "universal" don't you understand. He wants tariffs on "all imports" not just those from China.


Maybe that's one of his lies that we're all supposed to realize is a lie? It's hard to keep track.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71502 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:57 am to
Maybe your economic arguments suck because of your bias…
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260947 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:57 am to
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Y'all are chasing ghosts while the smarter people around you are profiting on your ghost chasing.


MAGA in a nutshell


They treat trade like the gubment treats the war on drugs.

It appears the US governments trade and economic policy is a war on US consumers.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2322 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:57 am to
Roger I am not trying to flame throw with this post but I am going to be brutally honest. You really do not have a clue about economics or international trade. This is not about TDS which you are ate up with by the way. This is just flat out ignorance of world economy.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71502 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:57 am to
It’s a war with China. You’re ignorantly ignoring that.
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:59 am to
I agree with the Tariffs but I also think that's what caused Covid to be released by China.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71502 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:00 am to
Yes sir! Covid was an attack back economically after harsh economic conditions on China. This is why China and WEF hates Trump. US was fricked before negotiations.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260947 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:01 am to
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t’s a war with China.



a Costly one, that was already decided.

China is doomed by its previous reproductive policies and were already showing cracks.

Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2322 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:02 am to
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I agree with the Tariffs but I also think that's what caused Covid to be released by China.




The last thing China wants is Trump back in office. I mean I cannot blame them as they were getting crushed. I truly believe they released covid to get Trump out.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74012 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:02 am to
How much is it costing us individually per year?

You cannot and will not tell us
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260947 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:04 am to
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How much is it costing us individually per year?


the fact that it costs Americans anything should be enough.

"Alll taxes are bad" was used earlier in this thread.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74012 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:05 am to
How much is it?

Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71502 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:05 am to
One thing your buddy didn’t link about universal tariffs is that Trump wants to attack China around 60%. We will always have tariffs and levy the same around the world. America first is truly putting America first and consumers should appreciate that.

You did say you’re fine with China subsidizing our market in favor of cheaper goods. I think you should reconsider the effects that has. It’s also not a conservative value.
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