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re: Trump's budget cuts 100% of the National Endowment for the Arts

Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:10 pm to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73282 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:10 pm to
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mormons are weird.
If by weird you mean rich/upper middle class, stable 2 parent families, well behaved kids who do well in school and then go away to help third world countries for a year, then yea, very weird.

New Orleans and Baton rouge could use some mormons to clean up the city.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:13 pm to
I don't think any rational budget professional would take an across the board haircut first before cutting wasteful spending.

If your company is in a hole, you don't cut 10% from sales and marketing, 10% from general and administrative and 10% from capital spending when you can just cancel the NetJets membership.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28791 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:16 pm to
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Guess we'll have to wait until 2024 for PissChrist 2.0



Most Americans would be perfectly OK with government funding of the arts if it wasn't for shite like this, and the Maplethorpe exhibit several years ago. If the NEA refuses to accept some adult supervision, then blow the whole thing up.
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
5148 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:22 pm to
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People in this country are broke. They don't want their money going to NEA and other stupid bull shite. How did art get made before the NEA? Where is NEA funding in the constitution?

There has always been money flooded into art programs for as long as modern civilization has been around.

LINK

Also, I'm going to breakdown the dollar per student that $148M amounts to. According to this website, there are roughly 56M students from K-12. That translates to about $2.65 per student. And of course, this only considers those that are students.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73282 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:27 pm to
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There has always been money flooded into art programs for as long as modern civilization has been around.
Americans, privately, spent 17 BILLION dollars on arts and entertainment in 2016. There is no evidence that government funding for the arts is necessary for art to survive.

I don't support government funding for sports stadiums for the same reason. If you want to get money for your arts or your sports, you offer it to consumers and they can decide if it is valuable or not.

If you give money to something that private customers didn't want to purchase with their own money, then it's a net loss to society when you use tax money to fund it.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21928 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:28 pm to
Where will we get our crosses in urine now?
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21928 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:28 pm to
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The arts is as foreign to them as Nascar is to gays.
I bet you're not foreign to the gays
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
5148 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:30 pm to
I think I already know what you're response will be, but what do you think about cities raising municipal bonds to build stadiums?
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:31 pm to
The beauty about local government is that those kinds of things often require a citizen referendum.

That's not the case at the federal level. Apples and oranges.
Posted by CaptChandler
Polis
Member since Sep 2016
2427 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:33 pm to
While Mister Rogers may be my personal hero, and while I do support children's educational television, I would be in favor of reducing funding for PBS. Not completely, but I'd rather them rely more on contributions from "Viewers Like You" and corporations that underwrite and sponsor many of their shows.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73282 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:37 pm to
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I think I already know what you're response will be, but what do you think about cities raising municipal bonds to build stadiums?
Don't support it. Sports teams should be built with private funds, period. Anyways, at the end of the day, only a very small fraction of total spending associated with stadium events is left over to help pay back the taxpayers for building a stadium.

It's crony capitalism that uses the power of gov't to put money into the coffers of rich team owners and businesses.
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
5148 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:39 pm to
I know they aren't analogous, I just wanted his opinion on it.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:40 pm to
Fair enough.

For what it's worth, I think there are a lot of local governments in Louisiana that are also involved in a number of what they call "proprietary" or "business-type" activities they have no business being in. I can list numerous examples.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:50 pm to
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Trump's budget cuts 100% of the National Endowment for the Arts


He "Maplethorped" the frick out of them.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:52 pm to
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If by weird you mean rich/upper middle class, stable 2 parent families, well behaved kids who do well in school and then go away to help third world countries for a year, then yea, very weird.


This is not at all accurate or all Mormons.

It might as well be said about protestants too.

I'm sorry, but most Mormons are weird.
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
5148 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:53 pm to
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Anyways, at the end of the day, only a very small fraction of total spending associated with stadium events is left over to help pay back the taxpayers for building a stadium.

You know, I was always under the belief that building sports facilities injected jobs and other revenue streams into the local economy. Turns out that isn't exactly the case. Thanks actually for opening my eyes on something.

PBS - Why should public money be used to build sports stadiums?

Sports stadiums do not generate significant local economic growth, Stanford expert says
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33085 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:55 pm to
Taxpayers don't need to fund unnecessary organizations like that.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:01 am to
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That's very predictable. I mean do you see him or any of his Trumpkins having any appreciation whatsoever for religion?



Same same
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33085 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:03 am to
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It seems like the budget for the NEA is only around $148M


$148M per year can buy a shite load of concrete and asphalt....which is actually where more tax dollars should be going if they must be spent at all.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:05 am to
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$148M per year can buy a shite load of concrete and asphalt....which is actually where more tax dollars should be going if they must be spent at all.
Or better yet, we could just not spend that 148 million dollars at all.
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