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re: Trump will sign Executive Order Mandating Voter ID

Posted on 8/31/25 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 2:15 pm to
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Won't pass muster in Court.


Maybe if it only applies to federal elections.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
8795 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 2:15 pm to
Such a common sense thing.

Glad to see DJT to do it and at the same time what a sad, ridiculous reflection of our country in the year 2025 that it takes an EO to implement a common sense measure.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93885 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 2:18 pm to
Another 80-20 brought to light by Orange the great

Dems will be screaming racism for all to see
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
5544 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 2:19 pm to
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This one is going to get interesting. Not sure it survives USSC.


They’ll have to explain why it’s necessary to show ID to check out a library book and board a plane if the USSC rules against.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80539 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 2:21 pm to
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I’m pretty sure that the states are free to conduct their elections the way they see fit.


Except that many blue states are not even following their own election laws
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7929 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 2:21 pm to
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Trump says he will order voter ID requirement for every vote
The president and his Republican allies also have made baseless claims about widespread voting by non-citizens, which is illegal and rarely occurs.


This is how this headline is read on reuters for instance. It's still indefensible; even if what youre saying is true, why would you care then?

Theres no argument you can formulate against it logically.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466948 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 2:24 pm to
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I think its obvious that certain election processes in one state can definitely affect the citizens of other states. I don’t even think that the vast majority of Americans even understand this wall of separation and assume that national elections are national in fact and in essence, and not processes of the individual states.

I think we SHOULD have one set of standards for voting in national elections.

I don't disagree, but that's not the system we have now, and a federal EO shouldn't be able to change the Constitution.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466948 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 2:24 pm to
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Not a fan of transparency brah?


I'm a fan of the Constitution
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466948 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 2:25 pm to
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What’s the remedy if a state has lax rules and even less oversight?

A Constitutional amendment or the voters of that state changing things via democratic action
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466948 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 2:26 pm to
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Congress should address it.

This is currently beyond even Congress.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466948 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 2:26 pm to
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They’ll have to explain why it’s necessary to show ID to check out a library book and board a plane if the USSC rules against.

No. They won't. You're talking about 3 different systems are multiple levels of government.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71899 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 2:28 pm to
Cool. Too bad we don't have a Congress that could actually pass legislation.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
39204 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 2:28 pm to
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They’ll have to explain why it’s necessary to show ID to check out a library book and board a plane if the USSC rules against.


Do you think they care? All those social/political/optics considerations are completely irrelevant. Legally, an EO won't stand up in court.
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
1185 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 2:28 pm to
I doubt this will pass constitutional muster, but the system will work it out as designed.

It will do a lot to draw attention to the voting fraud issue, which is good.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75368 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 2:29 pm to
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Idea is to get it to the USSC?

Bingo.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71899 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 2:32 pm to
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Slow is just popping off.

He asked a question that is going to have to be resolved.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75368 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 2:35 pm to
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Except that many blue states are not even following their own election laws

Red states that "miraculously went blue" didn't in 2020.
This post was edited on 8/31/25 at 3:15 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 2:35 pm to
The problem is we don’t have a single election. Technically speaking we have 51 elections that are then added up from there. Will need to go to the Supreme Court.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
15024 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 2:35 pm to
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A Constitutional amendment or the voters of that state changing things via democratic action


Therein lies the rub.... how can this be accomplished without verifying voters and ballots?
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8525 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 2:36 pm to
No, he just tried to make a stupid “gotcha” argument. Federal elections should be subject to federal standards. It disenfranchises voters in conservative states that have voter ID requirements when blue states have zero election safeguards.
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