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re: Trump Threatens to Ignore NATO Treaty if Unhappy with Member Dues. Thoughts?

Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:28 am to
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
2062 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:28 am to
And close all US bases in the countries that don't
"PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE". This would kill the economy of many small towns in Europe.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29310 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:32 am to
The US should leave NATO.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75861 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:33 am to
Good.

If the United States didn't fund the majority of the UN's bullshite would any of them come to our aid if we were attacked?
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57240 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:35 am to
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Sounds like an effective way to get them to pay their dues. It doesn't matter if he really means it or not, only that they think he might mean it.


Stand by for foreign interference in our elections that will be completely ignored by the usual suspects.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57240 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:36 am to
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the UN's


We should get out of the UN, too.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17183 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:37 am to
Russia doesn’t have the means to defend itself from an attack because of the Ukraine thing. Even if Russia focuses on rebuilding the military primarily it’s going to be 20 years before they can be aggressive. Just more media/MIC crying wolf with the hands out wanting funding.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12763 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:38 am to
If the accounting of his statements that I've read are accurate, the only thing id take issue with, and I think is incredibly stupid to say, is that he welcomes Russia to attack any underpaying member.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23722 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:39 am to
Why should we send our young men and women to defend those fricks if they aren't willing?

Pay up and take on your responsibilities, or you're on your own. It's way past time we took a hard look at what we do all over the world. Those willing to stand with us, we stand with them.

I'd kick the useless UN and their nest of spies out Day One.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30201 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:39 am to
Yeah I’m pretty sure he didn’t say that.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12072 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:39 am to
My thoughts are that hes trying to recapture some of his highlights from term 1. This statement makes more sense 5 years ago.

At this point, MOST NATO allies understand very well that they aren’t prepared and need to ramp up military spending. Several have already done so and have plans for further expansion of equipment and personnel.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15320 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:40 am to
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This recklessness degrades trust


Certainly does since they haven't been paying. Would my insurance company cover my property if I stopped paying. No coverage should be given to any Nato country that is not Fully up to date on payments.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12763 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:43 am to
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Yeah I’m pretty sure he didn’t say that.



as I understand it, he was speaking at a rally in South Carolina and he recalled making this statement.

either way, it's totally foolish on his part.
Posted by RFK
Squire Creek
Member since May 2012
1324 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:44 am to
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Yeah I’m pretty sure he didn’t say that.
Yes. According to Trump he said “I would tell Russia to do whatever the hell they want to you” if that country didn’t pay as much as Trump likes.

How do you interpret that? It seems a pretty blatant invitation for Russia to attack a NATO ally which is very concerning for 2 reasons:

1) Trump is either single-handedly disbanding treaties, or 2) he doesn’t understand how NATO work.

I assume it’s a blend of the two.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73823 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:47 am to
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How do you interpret that?


Its part of his negotiation skills

Nothing more. The sooner you clowns understand its all bark but he will bite and they know it the better for you mentally

Otherwise its just salty tears as always from you nevertrumpers
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12763 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:53 am to
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Its part of his negotiation skills


I don't take major issue with him saying this in private to another nation's president years ago.

I take issue for being dumb enough to repeat it at a rally.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:53 am to
Don't pay your electricity bill and it eventually gets cut off. Same difference in this case and before you come back with "protecting other country's well-being per NATO agreements", I suggest that protecting your own family's well-being per agreement with said energy company is equally important.
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
14286 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:57 am to
Have any NATO countries sent troops to help the National Guards at our southern border?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73823 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:58 am to
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I take issue for being dumb enough to repeat it at a rally.


Sure. But just add it to the list of things to cry about over Trump

What it does is keep that narrative going that hes crazy in the minds of the Euros

And thats the exactly what they need to think
Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
1625 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:59 am to
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Have any NATO countries sent troops to help the National Guards at our southern border?


If Trump had been clever enough to enact Article V of the NATO treaty they might could have.
This post was edited on 2/11/24 at 8:02 am
Posted by RFK
Squire Creek
Member since May 2012
1324 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 8:00 am to
All the while Putin sits back and laughs at the love he gets from Trump’s supporters with comments like this.

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