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re: Trump tells Fed to slash rates or he’ll end trade with countries with U.S. surpluses

Posted on 9/4/26 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 9/4/26 at 3:48 pm to
When your name is Barry Seotero, Bill Clinton, or Joey Biden you must bet everything you can the fed will lower rates to give you an economy. Barry Soetero had zero interest rates, even QE (quantitative easing) and still could not match what POTUS Trump has done.
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 9/4/26 at 3:53 pm to
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As opposed to thinking The Fed is a criminal organization or out to 'get' Trump?


Please provide the name of a conservative POTUS who has ever been "helped" by the fed?

I will save you some time. You Can Not Find One!!
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
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Posted on 9/4/26 at 4:06 pm to
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Just as economically illiterate as the Bernie Bros


Looks like the fed is going to have to make a choice. Which one will it be?

Economists generally view halting trade with major deficit/surplus partners as significantly worse than the Fed cutting rates, because a forced trade embargo would trigger an unprecedented structural and economic shock, whereas a premature rate cut—while bad for inflation—operates within normal macroeconomic boundaries. To put it into perspective, economists usually evaluate the two outcomes through these lenses:

1. If the Fed Does Nothing and Trade Stops (The Worse Option)The Damage: Catastrophic and systemic. Halting trade with major partners (such as China, Mexico, the EU, Japan, and Canada) would instantly sever trillions of dollars in global commerce. The Result: Immediate, severe shortages of manufactured goods, electronics, automotive parts, and raw materials. Supply chains would break down completely, shutting down American factories, spiking unemployment in logistics and retail, and causing consumer prices to skyrocket due to extreme scarcity. It would risk plunging both the U.S. and global economies into a deep depression.

2. If the Fed Reacts with Lower Rates (The Bad, but Less Destructive Option)The Damage: Primarily inflationary and structurally unhealthy. If the Fed caves to political pressure and slashes rates despite a strong labor market and sticky inflation, it makes a major policy mistake. The Result: It would likely overheat the economy, weaken the U.S. dollar, and cause inflation to accelerate again. While high inflation hurts purchasing power and damages the Fed's long-term credibility, the underlying engine of the economy—global trade, corporate supply chains, and foreign investment—would still function.

While neither scenario is good, halting trade is orders of magnitude worse. A policy mistake by the Fed leads to painful inflation and financial instability, which can eventually be corrected over time. A sudden, government-mandated freeze on international trade would inflict immediate physical damage on the functioning of modern commerce, with fallout comparable to a severe economic war.
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 9/4/26 at 4:09 pm to
Isn't the head guy at the fed Trump's guy????
Posted by bigjoe1
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Posted on 9/4/26 at 4:10 pm to
This will be another TACO moment
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
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Posted on 9/4/26 at 4:18 pm to
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How do you lower inflation with lower interest rate? Serious question because I would like to have the economy of lower interest rates but I absolutely do not want the insane inflation we are still paying for today from low interest rates.

Anyone have a legit solution?


My limited understanding is that higher interest rates reduces inflation.
If the fricking federal government would stop printing money, maybe things could level out.
Im curious about how much of the trillions of promised foreign investments have begun or are in the process of happening.

I worried when all that was announced that those foreign investors would drag their feet and gauge the likelihood of the GOP continuing to be in control.
Meanwhile, we've watched the GOP congress doing NOTHING except strongly worded press conferences and taking vacations.


Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 9/4/26 at 4:31 pm to
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It is the most blatant scam of history


The Fed specifically?

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POTUS Trump is certainly getting their attention and they will fight like the dirty dogs they are to hold their position.


POTUS Trump appointed 4 of the 7 members though.
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 9/4/26 at 6:03 pm to
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Im curious about how much of the trillions of promised foreign investments have begun or are in the process of happening.
Came out in early august.



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Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 9/4/26 at 6:07 pm to
Is that good?
Posted by Bieber_Hole69
Member since Mar 2026
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Posted on 9/4/26 at 6:56 pm to
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He's an economic imbecile


How dumb do you have to be to post this?
Posted by Timeoday
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Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 9/4/26 at 6:58 pm to
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POTUS Trump appointed 4 of the 7 members though.



The fed is a very powerful entity, regardless of who appoints who.
Posted by Timeoday
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Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 9/4/26 at 7:05 pm to
The head guy does not make the final decision. I do appreciate his unwillingness to speak about direction. Jerome Powell is still on board which is very unusual.
Posted by Timeoday
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Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 9/5/26 at 7:33 am to
Let's talk yield curve control.

We’ve done it before. Beginning in 1942, the Federal Reserve pegged Treasury bill rates at 0.375% and effectively capped long-term Treasury yields at 2.5%. Maintaining those rates required the Fed to buy government securities whenever necessary. Federal Reserve historians explicitly note that the policy forced the Fed to surrender control over the size of its balance sheet and money supply.

That is the endgame I continue to worry about. If the free market eventually demands 6%, 7% or 8% to finance America’s debt and Washington decides those rates are economically or fiscally intolerable, somebody has to buy the bonds at lower yields.

That somebody is the Federal Reserve. Call it yield curve control. Call it QE. Call it an “emergency market functioning facility” if you’d like to make it sound sufficiently boring for financial TV. It amounts to the same basic choice: suppress the cost of financing the debt and let the currency absorb some of the consequences.
Posted by CDUBTX
TX
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 9/5/26 at 7:50 am to
How about we stop spending so much it creates $2+ trillion deficits. I like some things he’s trying to do but much of it can’t be accomplished alone. He has to reign in spending which really isn’t his MO. Lower rates will only exacerbate the problem at this point.
Posted by Timeoday
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Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 9/5/26 at 8:03 am to
Congress spends. A POTUS does not control the budget. A POTUS has to assume the people want spending. After all, it is the people who elected the Congress.
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
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1940 posts
Posted on 9/5/26 at 8:04 am to
Just what we need. Higher inflation. Someone needs to teach him basic economics.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
26119 posts
Posted on 9/5/26 at 8:13 am to
Well, the people keep electing a Congress that loves to spend. Maybe a POTUS can end all foreign spending with an EO as a shot across the bow to Congress regarding spending.

Why a POTUS gets blamed for surplus or deficit budgets I will not ever understand. It is the Congress that controls spending.

But then again, I heard something about 1.5 trillion in fraud and another .5 trillion in tariff income was being discussed. If true, Shazam!!

Posted by Ten Bears
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Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 9/5/26 at 10:31 am to
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Why a POTUS gets blamed for surplus or deficit budgets I will not ever understand. It is the Congress that controls spending.


I realize the goal is to give Trump credit for every positive thing and blame every bad thing on deep, dark, evil forces that conspire against him but come on.

Do you really think that Trump didn’t push the BBB? Do you really think that Trump can’t veto the current CR that will guarantee a $2 trillion deficit for this year?

Are you really saying that Trump, who yall purport is the bestest deal-maker eva, can’t make a deal w/ congress to get our spending under control?

One day, I sincerely hope some of yall take the damn blinders off and rejoin reality here on planet earth.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
26119 posts
Posted on 9/5/26 at 4:13 pm to
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Do you really think that Trump didn’t push the BBB? Do you really think that Trump can’t veto the current CR that will guarantee a $2 trillion deficit for this year?


POTUS Trump is not going to sign a bill only to be over-ridden. If POTUS Trump is so STRONG as you believe, why could POTUS Trump, with 88% of the entire country in support, not get the SAVE Act passed?

Congress and the Judges are the problem.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481783 posts
Posted on 9/5/26 at 4:28 pm to
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This is the answer but as we saw the other day our congress just passed another 2 trillion deficit budget.


Trump still has to sign it to make it law
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