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Posted on 9/5/26 at 4:31 pm to Timeoday
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Congress spends. A POTUS does not control the budget. A POTUS has to assume the people want spending. After all, it is the people who elected the Congress.
I have read a lot of crap on this board, but you win the prize.
Posted on 9/5/26 at 5:04 pm to Timeoday
quote:This applied to Reagan. It doesn’t to Trump because:
Congress spends. A POTUS does not control the budget. A POTUS has to assume the people want spending. After all, it is the people who elected the Congress
- He has called for the suspension of debt ceiling and passing of CRs of Biden’s budgets multiple times. He advocated for suspending the debt ceiling during Biden’s term. There’s no denying Trump approves of the spending and the debt incurred.
- In his first term he wanted an “infrastructure bill” bigger than Biden got. He called for more spending during COVID than even Pelosi would support. He backed the BBB, that without mythical future cuts (that won’t happen) will add significantly to the debt and deficit in perpetuity.
- He now wants to add almost $750 billion per year in new defense spending. Every dollar of rich will have to be borrowed.
- Trump has worked tirelessly to get rid of any republicans in Congress that haven’t supported him outspending Biden.
To try to reframe this as “Trump is a victim of Congress” is absolute silliness.
This post was edited on 9/5/26 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 9/5/26 at 5:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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He has veto power over the budget
C'mon man. Congress simply over-rides his veto.
Posted on 9/5/26 at 5:21 pm to Timeoday
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end trade with countries with U.S. surpluses
This is oddly stated. The article says countries we have a deficit with.
Posted on 9/5/26 at 7:13 pm to Timeoday
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Congress simply over-rides his veto.
When has this happened with Trump and spending resolutions?
This post was edited on 9/5/26 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 9/5/26 at 7:44 pm to Taxing Authority
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Trump has worked tirelessly to get rid of any republicans in Congress that haven’t supported him outspending Biden.
Like who Masshole? The idiot that raised the debt ceiling for JB
Posted on 9/5/26 at 8:23 pm to SDVTiger
quote:Your infatuation and scapegoating is duly noted. Amazying how Trump is spending because it's forced on him, yet somehow he's the victim of congresmen voting against his spending. Trump is the biggest victim in American political history. Apparently.
The idiot that raised the debt ceiling for JB
This post was edited on 9/5/26 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 9/5/26 at 8:32 pm to Taxing Authority
Lol you couldnt even name anyone else and get upset that your hero is a loser
Posted on 9/5/26 at 8:38 pm to SDVTiger
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Lol you couldnt even name anyone else
you were the one that brought him up, not me, stalker. Posted on 9/5/26 at 8:46 pm to Taxing Authority
No retard you did
Yet there are no other Rs fighting spending that OMB ousted as you put it
Your TDS is out of control like your loser hero
Yet there are no other Rs fighting spending that OMB ousted as you put it
Your TDS is out of control like your loser hero
Posted on 9/6/26 at 2:13 am to SDVTiger
quote:Link?
No retard you did
quote:That is t true. But I understand why you want to make the bogeyman As usual you can only ad hominem as a deflection. It’s kinda sad. And even if it was just Massie… my point would remain true… Trump worked to eliminate spending opponents from Congress. He’s done so since the end of this first term.
Yet there are no other Rs fighting spending that OMB ousted as you put it
Triump isn’t the victim here. He sure as hell isn’t a victim of Massie. If Trump is against spending… how could he possibly be a victim of the guy opposing spending?
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Your TDS is out of control like your loser hero
Oh. The. Irony. This post was edited on 9/6/26 at 2:18 am
Posted on 9/6/26 at 2:28 am to Taxing Authority
Cutting interest rates isn't enough. We need to threaten military invasion on any country that sells US Bonds. Starting with Norway. 
Posted on 9/6/26 at 6:50 am to Taxing Authority
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Link?
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Trump has worked tirelessly to get rid of any republicans in Congress that haven’t supported him outspending Biden
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That is t true
If that is true then how does your statement above make any sense.
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Trump worked to eliminate spending opponents from Congress
Who are these ppl if you agreed there arent any
No one said OMB is a victim. Only the TDS and Masshole claim to be victims
Posted on 9/6/26 at 8:32 am to Taxing Authority
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He's an economic imbecile who seems to be morphing into Bernie Sanders.
Makes sense. Sanders is the left wing Populist version of Trump. At some point, their ideas converge.
Posted on 9/6/26 at 8:34 am to JimEverett
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The strategy seems to be not only to grow our way out of debt but increase inflation to also get out of debt.
That’s a great approach for billionaires who live off of debt, not so much for people with stagnant salaries living paycheck to paycheck
Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:33 am to theunknownknight
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Makes sense. Sanders is the left wing Populist version of Trump. At some point, their ideas converge.
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Posted by Jjdoc 9/4/26 at 2:23 pm to RollTide4Ever Free market is the reason the USA is in the shitter.
The above was an actual post made by one of the diehard Trumpian Mensas. They’re straight up Marxist.
At some point there can either be 2 realities here. They are either 1) so loyal to Trump they’d commmit suicide before admitting they were wrong or 2) they are disaffected marxists that have somehow usurped political power in the R party by masquerading as conservatives on a few social issues.
This post was edited on 9/6/26 at 9:34 am
Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:37 am to Ten Bears
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The above was an actual post made by one of the diehard Trumpian Mensas. They’re straight up Marxist.
JJ has been arguing to abandon freedom/capitalism and adopt government intervention and a planned economy for years. He used to be more deceptive about it but I'm glad he's out in the open as a freedom-hating economic leftist.
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They are either 1) so loyal to Trump they’d commmit suicide before admitting they were wrong
This is only the surface. The more important aspect of the in/out dynamic here would be something more like "We became incredibly irrational and angry watching the out group (DEMs) get to use government to help their team, so now that we have power we want to use government to help our team". It's more about how they believe they are due the spoils of the public purse and spin their hypocrisy as the legitimate use of the government. The loyalty to Trump just appears in HOW they want to engage in this hypocrisy.
Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:46 am to SlowFlowPro
I wonder what they would do if it was a Massie type s a DSA type and Trump endorsed the DSA candidate…..
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