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re: Trump tells Canada they FA'd and are about to FO

Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:07 am to
Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
1995 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:07 am to
quote:

the rest of the educated world





If the opposition to Trump is considered educated, I don't ever want to go to the same schools they did.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
18622 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:08 am to
*you’re

Posted by seedmonster77
Member since Feb 2025
261 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:10 am to
The US can't compete on wages with Mexico. If i'm GM i'm going to build my car in Mexico because i can pay pedro pennies compared to the guy in Detroit. Also i don't have to give him health insurance. You'd need to level the playing field somehow.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22072 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:12 am to
quote:


The US can't compete on wages with Mexico. If i'm GM i'm going to build my car in Mexico because i can pay pedro pennies compared to the guy in Detroit. Also i don't have to give him health insurance. You'd need to level the playing field somehow.


People keep saying things like this but I dont see any price premium on cars assembled in the USA vs Mexico.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63422 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:16 am to
We also subsidize their cheap prescriptions through higher prices in the United States.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5326 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:23 am to
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Why is it that we currently import so much stuff from these countries that everyone says we don't need?

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm asking a sincere question.


We do it because it's cheaper and because we can. We've been running a continuous trade deficit with the rest of the world since the early 70's? If we were trading in hard currency, we couldn't have done that; the money would have run out. But we've been trading in the world's reserve currency, the US dollar. So we run a capital account surplus to offset the trade deficit; they send us stuff, we send them dollars which they either hold as foreign reserves, loan back to us, or invest in things like US real estate, factories, equities, etc.

It's not a sustainable situation because we continue to flood the world with excess dollars year after year. If a country does that long enough, they surrender their sovereignty and they lose control of the value of their currency. For the last 15 years we've started intermittently monetizing our unsustainable debt, while continuing to pile on more unsustainable debt. The writing is on the wall; exporting dollars for commodities or finished goods is approaching its inevitable conclusion. We're gonna have to equalize production and consumption one way or another.
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 9:30 am
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:28 am to
quote:

People keep saying things like this but I dont see any price premium on cars assembled in the USA vs Mexico.


Is this a serious comment?
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20205 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:29 am to
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and i'll bet they are worried.


Ummm dude do you even comprehend economics and foreign trade?
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
9263 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:31 am to
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and i'll bet they are worried.

quote:

56lsu


You obviously have no idea how easily we could crush them.

Can you name something we NEED that we can't do in America (probably) cheaper?
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22072 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:32 am to
quote:

Is this a serious comment?


Yes. When toyota moved cars to USA (and hyundai, etc.) they have not significantly increased prices nor have they had significant decrease in sales.

And on the flip side, when cars have moved to mexico, I have not seen prices decrease.
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 9:34 am
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13525 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:37 am to
quote:

We do it because it's cheaper


That's what I thought.

So all of this economic isolationism is going to raise prices even higher.

quote:

It's not a sustainable situation because we continue to flood the world with excess dollars year after year. If a country does that long enough, they surrender their sovereignty and they lose control of the value of their currency. For the last 15 years we've started intermittently monetizing our unsustainable debt, while continuing to pile on more unsustainable debt. The writing is on the wall; exporting dollars for commodities or finished goods is approaching its inevitable conclusion. We're gonna have to equalize production and consumption one way or another.


I can respect all of that, but if that is the case, then the strategy that everyone keeps telling me that is the point of this tariff war is moot, yes?

Because won't we run a trade deficit with any country whose economy is significantly smaller than ours, regardless of whether protectionist policies aggravate that situation or not?

I mean, do we have an alternative to trading using the US dollar?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:39 am to
Let me explain something to you.

Prices are generally market driven, not cost.

Pretty simple.

GM produces the Silverado in both the US and Mexico. You think they should have a lower price on the Mexican assembled units?


Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5125 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:43 am to
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United States, Canada, and Mexico should be free trade zones with no tariffs on anything. Not sure why this isn’t being discussed.


Because Canada is able to do a lot of the Socialist shite they do because the US subsidizes their damn economy.

Trump is exposing that. That is precisely what the 51st State was in regards to.

Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22072 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Let me explain something to you.

Prices are generally market driven, not cost.

Pretty simple.

GM produces the Silverado in both the US and Mexico. You think they should have a lower price on the Mexican assembled units?


Sounds like they can still make money on USA cars then. Otherwise they'd all be produced in Mexico, right?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:50 am to
Answering my question with a question.

As expected.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23365 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:51 am to
quote:

Ontario wasted a ton of money during the end of the NFL season and after the Superbowl advertising how they were great allies to the USA.

And they are.

As long as we allow them to tariff our goods and ban our businesses without reciprocating.

You know, just like any healthy relationship…
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25671 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:51 am to
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Come on. I make this mistake all the time but I’m not the President of the USA. Can someone please proofread his tweets? And it’s not a troll like covefee was. I am a Trump supporter so I’m not doing a gotcha either.


This is why people are so misinformed, because they don’t know shite. So I’ll explain it to you.

Trump doesn’t actually post his own tweets. He tells an aid what to tweet and she types it out and sends it.




Now you can step off the ledge, pussy.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:53 am to
Was wondering if anyone was going to point that out as it was a fairly big deal when it was revealed Trump doesn't actually post his tweets from the shitter.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22072 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:55 am to
quote:


Answering my question with a question.

As expected


No, it was answered with a statement then followed by a question. But it seems you can only stick to your regular programming and not think for yourself. Not surprised.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:57 am to
Pointing out the basics of business is "programming".

Comical.

Do you think a Silverado assembled in Mexico should be priced lower than one built in Fort Wayne IN?
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