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re: Trump says USS Lincoln’s Extended Deployment “Not Nearly Long Enough”

Posted on 8/21/26 at 4:52 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 4:52 pm to
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And by the way I’m actually really glad that the Navy is bringing back the name Enterprise. I lost an extremely close friend about a year ago that went on his first float aboard CVN-65. A quick little cool story. He sent me this patch that you could sow on a jacket or something. It had a picture of a carrier on it with like this swirling symbol you see in a lot of nuclear plants. Don’t know what that symbol is called. It had the carrier name Enterprise and the CVN-65. On the bottom was written mobile Chernobyl lol. He told me when he got back of that cruise that the Navy had taken all them up and wouldn’t allow them to be distributed anymore. I asked why and he said that the talk was that the Navy was afraid to let a nuclear powered aircraft carrier be compared to Chernobyl lol. I don’t know if that was true or not. He said that was the talk anyway.

That’s a good story The boxes were ugly I’ll always have my heart for those monstrosities on her and Long Beach

And I’m with you on bringing Big E back. It confounds me that we’re practically the only nation on Earth that made a concerted effort to preserve noteworthy and/or exemplary naval vessels as museums at scale……but we scrapped possibly the most accomplished and decorated ship in the history of the US Navy. CV-6 was done wrong.
This post was edited on 8/21/26 at 4:54 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 4:52 pm to
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Also here’s to hoping the USN tells Trump to frick off


Good Lord.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 4:53 pm to
Pathetic huh?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38385 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 4:54 pm to
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Good Lord.

On the catapault? Absolutely ignore the order because he won’t be in office when it’s installed or matters.

Trump is unequivocally wrong in the issue.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 4:56 pm to
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Absolutely ignore the order


Holy shite.

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Trump is unequivocally wrong in the issue.


Self-proclaimed arbiter. You’re trying to be Rex. I knew Rex. You’re no Rex.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38385 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 4:59 pm to
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Self-proclaimed arbiter. You’re trying to be Rex. I knew Rex. You’re no Rex.

Rex was almost always wrong.

I’m not wrong here. Trump is. But he also doesn’t know anything about it and just says things he hears from random people. He is wrong, the navy thinks he’s wrong, the builders think he’s wrong, Congress thinks he’s wrong.

There is no benefit to steam over EMALS. Not with our ships power systems and configurations. None at all.

Imagine resetting designs for a ship that’s about to be built, and compounding construction delays by years because you want to go back to old technology for no demonstrable reason
This post was edited on 8/21/26 at 5:01 pm
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
7226 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 4:59 pm to
Yeah it’s sad to see these ships that were involved in some of the most historic battles ever fought end up as scrap or at the bottom of the ocean serving as an artificial reef.

He served on the Big E on his first cruise. If I’m not bad mistaken I think he was on the Ike for a time.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38385 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 5:01 pm to
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Yeah it’s sad to see these ships that were involved in some of the most historic battles ever fought end up as scrap or at the bottom of the ocean serving as an artificial reef.

HMS Warspite is number two on this list after CV6
Posted by beachdude
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 5:02 pm to
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266 days in combat is nuts…


Serving on a giant boat with no enemy capable of harming you in the least is combat? Some bad menu items and inadequate toilette?

How about 366 days: no toilet, food from a can, interrupted sleep on the ground, shower every couple of weeks from a used oil drum with holes in the bottom, 90 degrees and/or flooding rain, constant unexpected scary loud noises, debilitating physical exhaustion…oh, and the daily distinct possibility that you might be killed or mutilated.

I do not mean to disparage these guys and I know flight operations can be very grueling. I’m also sure that the media has taken the opportunity to inflate these complaints not out of sympathy with sailors or their families, but because of the adverse shade it throws on the current administration.

However, these people volunteered and whoever bitched about the conditions in question just gave the jackals a piece of meat to run off with and should be ashamed.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38385 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 5:05 pm to
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I do not mean to disparage these guys and I know flight operations

So can being in GQ for large amounts of time playing duck hunt and evasive maneuvers with whatever Iran has been lobbing at ships. Being on high alert for months is mental more than physical fatigue.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
7226 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 5:07 pm to
I don’t think I ever heard of the Warspite.

It’s funny you brought up some of the names of the future Ford class ships that will be built. I looked at that list 2-3 months back or so and saw the Big E. Wasn’t the Yorktown on that list also? Seems like I remember another famous ships name from yesteryear on that list also. I wanna say it was the Yorktown but I remember about enough to live dangerously these days lol.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 5:11 pm to
I’m not debating the comment or situation in any way.

Just pointing out (for the eleventy billionth time) how dishonest and manipulative the media is.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
60249 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 5:12 pm to
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Rex was almost always wrong.


And you’re a poor man’s Rex.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
7264 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 5:16 pm to
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How many days do they go without seeing the sun?

120 days is the maximum, although I do not think any actually go 3 months submerged.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
7226 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 5:21 pm to
I’m telling you I would knock a hole in the side of that boat and swim out about 5 seconds after the hatch was closed. Subs wasn’t meant for this old boy. I have massive amounts of respect for the folks that serve on Subs.
Posted by Tvilletiger
PVB
Member since Oct 2015
6031 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 5:29 pm to
This is an actual question I have for someone that served or knows these things.
It’s an aircraft carrier.
It’s like a base on water.
Is there not a simple way to have sailors rotate in and out and never move the boat?
Seems like that could happen with the right logistics of course.
Have them constantly rotating every few months?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38385 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 5:30 pm to
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It’s funny you brought up some of the names of the future Ford class ships that will be built. I looked at that list 2-3 months back or so and saw the Big E. Wasn’t the Yorktown on that list also? Seems like I remember another famous ships name from yesteryear on that list also. I wanna say it was the Yorktown but I remember about enough to live dangerously these days lol.

I seem to remember Yorktown was on the initial list and bumped to a potential later hull (since we’re building 11 of them) in favor of Doris Miller.

Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
7226 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 5:34 pm to
The Yorktown is a pretty famous name for a US aircraft carrier. Seems they could find another name to bump.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30996 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 5:40 pm to
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Basically all of its systems, the aircraft, and its crew, need pretty intense maintenance, and rest, etc after 240 straight days at sea in a war zone.

Maintenance on systems and aircraft doesn't stop while deployed.
Posted by toratiger
Member since Aug 2008
3707 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 5:50 pm to
The Navy seems very soft.

Even with pussy on board they still can't cut it.
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