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re: Trump says USS Lincoln’s Extended Deployment “Not Nearly Long Enough”

Posted on 8/21/26 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by AGGIES
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 3:26 pm to
But it was a response to the USS Lincoln.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 3:28 pm to
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How many days do they go without seeing the sun?

Not anywhere near 9 months.

3-6 month deployments generally, most involving port calls or brief dockside maintenance periods in there.

Boomers will do three months or so without popping up anywhere.

No one is saying submariners don’t have it tough. But 9 months is too much for any of our carriers—every system and person on board is degraded by that point. Only so much can be fixed underway.
This post was edited on 8/21/26 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 3:29 pm to
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But it was a response to the USS Lincoln.

It’s stupid either way—whether referring to this Lincoln deployment specifically, or Navy deployment lengths generally.
Posted by RFK
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 3:31 pm to
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every system and person on board is degraded by that point. Only so much can be fixed underway.
Then shouldn’t we improve our systems? If a boat can’t stay afloat for 9 months maybe the parts are defective.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 3:32 pm to
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Then shouldn’t we improve our systems? If a boat can’t stay afloat for 9 months maybe the parts are defective.

This is possibly one of the most ignorant comments I’ve ever read.

You know nothing of the Navy or how anything works in general, Jon Snow.
Posted by Pedropatterstine
Member since Aug 2026
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 3:33 pm to
Jesus Christ you are a moron.
Posted by Pedropatterstine
Member since Aug 2026
108 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 3:33 pm to
Well he is a beta soy liberal so...
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 3:36 pm to
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I think it’s safe to say he just lost the vote of 5,000 sailors (as well as their families).



Thanks you RFK for your typical wisdom.

I say, if I were a marine or sailor on that ship, with every sick adjective (as in spent, beat, fatigued, drained, tired, broken, rundown, etc.) being used by the MSM on every article I see describing a flagship of the fleet... I'd be embarrassed AND pissed-off as Frick.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 3:36 pm to
I have read a lot about carriers so I understand what you are talking about.

Me personally I would take 12 months at sea with no port of call rather than do 3-6 months in a Sub. Talk about living a miserable existence. I did hear of reports of people jumping off the Lincoln trying to end it all. I don’t know if those reports were true or not but at least those people had that option if they were. On a Sub you are just stuck below water for days, weeks, maybe even months at a time below water. I would go bananas just as soon as the hatch was closed.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
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Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 3:38 pm to
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I think it’s safe to say he just lost the vote of 5,000 sailors (as well as their families)




I think it's safe to say "RFK is a dumbass"
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38385 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 3:41 pm to
And while I feel for the crew being away that long, that isn’t my primary concern and it’s not the Navy’s either.

Just wait until pictures of Abe coming into Norfolk surface. She’s going to look like a rust bucket, rode hard and put up wet. The hangar is probably clogged with planes that are awaiting maintenance due to the thousands of flight ops. Cat launches and carrier landings are incredibly hard on the airframes. Every mechanical system aboard will need maintenance. And then just imagine anything and everything that breaks when constantly used for nine months by a small town’s worth of people—from sophisticated sensors to random shite like toilets or kitchen appliances.

Yes these boats can remain war capable after this amount of time, but we have 11 of the damned things. The goal isn’t to use it to exhaustion, because now Lincoln is going to dry dock and won’t be available for years.

We rotate them around for a reason.
This post was edited on 8/21/26 at 3:42 pm
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 3:48 pm to
Yeah it’s gonna be a mess. The Ford will be in for a while also. It’s incredible that we have spent trillions upon trillions of dollars over the decades and do not have the infrastructure and workforce at Newport to turn these carriers over in a much faster and more efficient manner.

The last I read the Stennis was way behind schedule on its midlife refueling and maintenance and that kind of had things clogged up.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 3:49 pm to
This guy said 8 months might not have been a big deal, but they had supply problems.
This post was edited on 8/21/26 at 3:50 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38385 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 3:57 pm to
Yep. Bush and Washington are deployed. Outside of that, only Teddy, Vinson, and Ike are available in the short term/immediately

Stennis and Truman are in RCOH. The other four are in varying stages of maintenance periods.

Oh I guess there’s the six decade old Nimitz too. The new Kennedy is still a while from commissioning.

It sounds great when people say we have 11 super carriers, but we functionally don’t. At any given time, we really only have 4-5.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
23140 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 4:03 pm to
THEY VOLUNTEER FOR SERVICE


Reeeeeeeeeee TDS
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
23140 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 4:06 pm to
I love how mouthbreathing TDS losers think this is a story.
Posted by Desert Storm 1991
Member since Aug 2014
154 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 4:08 pm to
I slept in a hole in the ground in the desert. Ate mre’s three time a day for a month straight. Didn’t shower for about two months. These people complaining on the Lincoln are just cry babies.
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
3388 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 4:09 pm to
In a fight with China, 2 will be at the bottom of the pacific in the first 6 months according to war games.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38385 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 4:13 pm to
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In a fight with China, 2 will be at the bottom of the pacific in the first 6 months according to war games.

Potentially true, along with most of China’s navy.

We don’t yet have a consistent answer for hypersonics and large drone/missile swarms we’d see. It’s a volume issue more than a technological one.

Losing the Tico’s and their 100+ VLS cells will not help this issue. We should have kept investing in the magic lasers for the Zumwalts to replace the guns that we didn’t make any ammo for.
This post was edited on 8/21/26 at 4:17 pm
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
7226 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 4:14 pm to
Yeah we are supposed to have 3-4 operating 4 in training and the rest in for repairs and refueling. It’s something like that. I can’t remember exactly how that goes.

The Washington is on station now and the Lincoln is currently bugging out.

I read an article a few months back that said the Ford was about to be down for around 2 years. The article said that they were going to change the radar on the Ford. It currently has the best radar in the world but it’s one of a kind. It will carry the same radar the JFK and the Nimitz class carriers because we have a supply chain set up for that type of radar. They also have to recalibrate the cats on it and the elevators. They also have to fix the deck so it can carry the F35 finally. It was built to carry the F35 and couldn’t because of the warping problem the F35 creates to the deck with its engines. That carrier isn’t that old and she is already going down for 2 years if the article I read is correct.
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