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re: Trump says U.S. may have to pay oil companies to work in Venezuela

Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:45 am to
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13585 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:45 am to
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Douche.


Dullard.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59474 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:45 am to
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The size of the reserves is irrelevant


holy shite.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59474 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:46 am to
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It’s always been about the oil and Trump burnishing his self-image as a Strongman world leader…


VOR. The China and Russia cheerleader.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24024 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:46 am to
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Something like 5% royalties. That changes the calculus somewhat.


Boy that sounds good for Venezuela. Lowest royalty I ever saw was 12 1/2% on a 1940s lease. This has got to produce revenue for Venezuela or they will kick us out again.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59474 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:48 am to
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I'm so much smarter than you it should make headlines.


if I could buy you for how smart you actually are and sell you for how smart you think you are I’d be a much richer man.


You aren’t smart.
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 8:48 am
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16423 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:53 am to
It’s going to take some time but having our companies run the oil business down there is in ours and Venezuela’s best interest

It’s nation building but imo, it’s a worthwhile endeavor as long as we get paid back
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 8:55 am
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59474 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:53 am to
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Then I guess that means you know more than these guys.


look up “appeal to authority” fallacy.

Thanks on behalf of us all.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59474 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:54 am to
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Dullard


Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
AggieHank Alter
Member since Oct 2025
2968 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:55 am to
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Boy that sounds good for Venezuela. Lowest royalty I ever saw was 12 1/2% on a 1940s lease.
In my corner of the world, 1/8 payable to the landowner was the standard ... forever, until the early 1980s or maybe late 1970s.
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 9:33 am
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
6106 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:58 am to
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Low oil price doesn’t make it a bad investment. At all.


Explain please… falling crude prices and supply glut create a bearish market… is that wrong?
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
AggieHank Alter
Member since Oct 2025
2968 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:58 am to
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The size of the reserves is irrelevant, if those reserves cannot be recovered due to dangerous instability.
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holy shite.

Barry, why would you remove the important part of that post?

Looking for cheap upvotes? Shame on you.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24024 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:02 am to
I worked in that business for nearly 35 years and retired a decade ago. I never saw "modern" leases with low royalty. The only low royalty was on legacy 1930s/40s leases. It was our charge to try and get 80% leases. Mostly we got 75% leases. But there is no way we are going to arm twist Venezuela into 5% royalty.

You are Aggie Hank.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:08 am to
But it’s about making America safe from drugs

Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11027 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:10 am to
Halliburton and Schlburge{sp} were up % yesterday
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
AggieHank Alter
Member since Oct 2025
2968 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:11 am to
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I worked in that business for nearly 35 years and retired a decade ago. I never saw "modern" leases with low royalty. The only low royalty was on legacy 1930s/40s leases. It was our charge to try and get 80% leases. Mostly we got 75% leases.
I well-remember how excited landowners in my county were, when we started getting 15-17.5% royalties at the start of the Austin Chalk run.

You are correct, no one is getting a 5% royalty in a free market today, which is NOT what I said.

Trump is telling us that the US is running the show in Venezuela now. Does the boss not get to grant whatever leases he wants to grant? THAT would be a way to induce big American oil companies to embrace the risk of operating in a relatively-unstable Venezuela.
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 9:13 am
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19988 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:16 am to

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Then I guess that means you know more than these guys.

Peterson Institute for International Economics


You real thick aint cha boy

I knew you were going to go to the old tried and true "US companies pay for it". Yes they do, with money their importers give them in the form of additional discounts.

Once again its like your teenage daughter using your credit card to pay for temu junk. Technically she "paid" for it, but it wasnt her money.

Here is an example.....

quote:

Volkswagen said on Thursday that it lost $1.5 billion in the third quarter because of President Trump's tariffs


Im glad you took econ 101 but this is obviously a bit more complex than you can comprehend.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
8469 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:17 am to
quote IvortBillMatt:
Thanks Ailsa, but "the United States" didn't lose anything in Venezuela. American companies did.
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Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:25 am to
Why are you posting this from President Trump? It doesn't change the reality that oil companies---NOT the USA---had owned those leases.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
8469 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:34 am to
quote IvoryBillMatt:

Why are you posting this from President Trump? It doesn't change the reality that oil companies---NOT the USA---had owned those leases.
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Trump disagrees with you. They DID steal our assets.

What about all the American lives lost due to their narco trafficking and human trafficking? 300,000 lives lost. Tren de agua sent to terrorize us and take over apartment buildings, among other things? No loss there?
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 9:43 am
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24024 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:38 am to
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Trump is telling us that the US is running the show in Venezuela now. Does the boss not get to grant whatever leases he wants to grant? THAT would be a way to induce big American oil companies to embrace the risk of operating in a relatively-unstable Venezuela.

Well, he's not really the boss. Venezuela is still being run by the vestiges of the Maduro regime. I'm not sure how they get removed since it doesn't look like we will remove them. That is since the whole operation there was law enforcement for an outstanding indictment.
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