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re: Trump says the gov will take deals like Intel deal all day long
Posted on 8/25/25 at 11:04 am to RelicBatches86
Posted on 8/25/25 at 11:04 am to RelicBatches86
quote:You wouldn’t call a government directed/ planned economy led by the Communist Party socialism? Uhhhh…
Trump is copying the China model imo. I wouldn't call that socialism
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 2:18 pm
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 11:07 am to RogerTheShrubber
Let's play the stock market while running up credit card debt.. the returns will totally finance our debt 
Posted on 8/25/25 at 11:18 am to Jjdoc
Feels like socialism
Posted on 8/25/25 at 11:20 am to BlackAdam
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Sovereign wealth funds are usually created from surpluses. How can you create one when you run massive deficits, and have a $36 trillion debt. Seems more prudent to pay reduce deficits, and paydown the debt with surpluses.
If I can borrow at 4% and invest at a 10% return I’ll do it all day and twice on Tuesdays.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 11:29 am to GeauxBurrow312
You keep repeating "for free"...
You do realize what grants and loans are, correct? Since yhe govt been giving them out for decades to grow businesses that ultimately helps the economy?
All accomplished without having to give the fed govt equity
You do realize what grants and loans are, correct? Since yhe govt been giving them out for decades to grow businesses that ultimately helps the economy?
All accomplished without having to give the fed govt equity
Posted on 8/25/25 at 11:31 am to RelicBatches86
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You do realize what grants and loans are, correct? Since yhe govt been giving them out for decades to grow businesses that ultimately helps the economy?
That’s a lot of words to describe welfare
Giving a private company $10b of taxpayer money is insane. If it must happen; they must give equity. Their shareholders don’t get bailed out on all of our dime scot free
Posted on 8/25/25 at 11:31 am to GeauxBurrow312
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But people whining about Trump securing 10% of intel for $10b that the prior administration was going to give them for free, is insane
Is that what we are calling a bi-partisan an act passed by Congress and signed by the president?
What you are seeing is a form of a line item veto, where a president is picking and choosing pieces of legislation to enforce.
It’s a terrible, terrible road to walk down.
On the other hand, hopefully President AOC takes a stake in everyone drilling carbon capture wells and every dentist that took a PPP loan.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 11:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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Can't get more free market than that
Ah yes, that "free market" that doesn't exist anywhere outside textbooks. Let's form all our policies based on fantasies.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 11:59 am to Jjdoc
I don’t like government owning private companies
Bridge to socialism
Bridge to socialism
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:12 pm to Jjdoc
Socialist Don
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:13 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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Ah yes, that "free market" that doesn't exist anywhere outside textbooks. Let's form all our policies based on fantasies.
You're proposing moving from that to socialist policies. Literally socialism (owning the means of production).
Which direction do you think government should be going? Towards socialism or away form socialism?
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:18 pm to Jjdoc
I keep forgetting what it’s called when the government owns mess of production….pretty sure it’s something this board and republicans talk shite about nonstop. But now most of you are cool with it…
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:06 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
Exactly right. Its welfare for companies. Not free market.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:09 pm to Jjdoc
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:11 pm to Seldom Seen
Bless his heart. And idiot until the end.
So its ok to give companies money to survive and not pay back.... but its not ok to require them in one form or another to pay that back.
His issue is he is a hypocrite.
So its ok to give companies money to survive and not pay back.... but its not ok to require them in one form or another to pay that back.
His issue is he is a hypocrite.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 3:05 pm to Jjdoc
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So its ok to give companies money to survive and not pay back.... but its not ok to require them in one form or another to pay that back.
Neither is okay.
One of the things that makes this country great is the separation between private sector and the government and that is despite democrats always meddling in that dynamic. To be fair, republicans do it too.
Now Trump has blown the lid off by now allowing the US government to outright own companies.
Allow losers to lose. It’s good for the winners.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 3:16 pm to Jjdoc
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So its ok to give companies money to survive and not pay back.... but its not ok to require them in one form or another to pay that back.
Neither is "OK" moron.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 3:22 pm to Seldom Seen
Well its official now that Massie has spoken. Now we have have the entire clown crew that have never ever been right about anything chiming in
Posted on 8/25/25 at 3:51 pm to SlidellCajun
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I don’t like government owning private companies
Bridge to socialism
Bridge? How much further until we’ve fully crossed?
Posted on 8/25/25 at 4:05 pm to BlackAdam
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Trump says the gov will take deals like Intel deal all day long
I bet Obama would say the same.
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