re: Trump says that federal workers who don't want to work in the office will be fired

What kind of union deal?

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This is a mechanism for firing people and downsizing the workforce. It has nothing to do with whether work from home is actually good or bad.

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Nope.

It's a mechanism for firing useless government workers who do next to nothing on the taxpayer's dime, and they get away with it BECAUSE they "work" from home.

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The idea is that these people are so addicted to working from home they will either quit, or refuse to come into the office and be fired.

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Everybody who "works" from home is so addicted to it they will quit rather than come back to work. Just ask the board.

And we all know why.

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used to work for Allstate. Started right after the covid shutdown but before everyone returned to the office.

And you know what Allstate realized? There was almost no change in productivity at home and instead of making us return to the office they subleased and send us all a nicer monitor.

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Shh before they start making comparisons between federal employees and insurance companies

WFH leads to lower productivity. Gov employees don’t need to be less productive.

Bring them back and Make it easier to fire them.

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Try the VA

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Better do it while you can.

Just for clarity, there are a couple different work from home scenarios.

One scenario is that the employee DOES have a duty location in a federal office space but is allowed to WFH a specified number of days a week. A second scenario is that the employee DOES NOT have a duty location in a federal office space so they 100% remote work from home.

It sounds like the second scenario people will have some decisions to make. It appears that Trump admin will remove the remote work option and require those employees to report back to a specified office location. Problem is that many do not live in the same location that their agency resides.

The first scenario people probably will have their allotted WFH days scaled back or removed completely. They still have to report to an office space now so though maybe not ideal for an employee it would still be feasible.

I would come into the office and stay: sleep, etc.

For all the bureaucracies, to take the workforce down 40% in two years,


1: Anyone with over 20 years in the game, offer early retirement, with their original benefits/pension kicking in when they hit whatever age that is already in writing, and in the interim offer 50% salary until such time. This would be voluntary.

2: Anyone else, if you have other ships you can jump to, friends/family/colleagues in other private businesses who would hire you, consider doing this, and take a 1 year salary in severance by leaving voluntarily.

3: Whoever is leftover, heads just start getting chopped off mercilessly just like people in the corporate workforce have to deal with all the time. Just because your employer is the federal government does not make your job sacred.


This is how you get rid of 40% of a worthless workforce in a semi-humane way.

Do it to the DOEd, EPA, IRS, DOI, D this and D that, all those big bloated bureaus that the SCOTUS ruled against already regarding their authority to make their own laws.

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But it’s difficult to fire government workers,

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Nah, it’s “not that hard” according to one of the federal Mensa members here.

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I'm curious if this means in teh office full time or allows for hybrid schedules. Not allowing full remote I agree with. Hybrid schedules I can see for certain roles.

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No! I’ve been in a position to work from home since 2011. I know for a fact that I wouldn’t be nearly as far along in my career or have done half the job if I didn’t have to get up, get dressed, and report to “duty” every day