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re: Trump says he’s canceling windmills and solar fields
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:25 am to stout
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:25 am to stout
Billy Bob Thornton's character went on a spot-on rant about windmills in Landman. Not sure how that snuck through Hollywood's woke filter but it was a balanced, accurate assessment of how fricking stupid they are.
Thornton, not Cyrus
Thornton, not Cyrus
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 10:26 am
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:27 am to Decatur
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Seems like a pretty low risk for birds outside of one of those large solar towers that get hit with reflective mirrors.
wut?
stupid fricking birds need to LEARN TO FLY AROUND IT
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:27 am to Narax
You should watch the show Landman with Billy Bob Thorton
He gives an in depth analysis on Windmills
There is so much anti-Climate Change content in there it's amazing it was ever released.
He gives an in depth analysis on Windmills
There is so much anti-Climate Change content in there it's amazing it was ever released.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:28 am to Decatur
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Solar fields kill animals? Are folks putting up solar fields in residentially-zoned neighborhoods? Can’t say I understand this.
When will you finally realize that "alternative" energies and this climate change bull shite benefits big oil? You know what threatens big oil markets? Nuclear.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:29 am to stout
I have a business acquaintance that has a side gig. He's contracted to an energy company up there to clean up and dispose of the dead birds weekly at a bunch of windmills and then drops them off at a commercial waste incinerator. I asked him why he didn't just chuck them in the trash, and he said that the energy company can't take a chance that environmentalists would retrieve the bags and use the images to create negative publicity, so they contracted with the waste company to burn them up, and all he has to do is bring the dead birds in bags and drop them off.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:29 am to CAD703X
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stupid fricking birds need to LEARN TO FLY AROUND IT
That just a small poor outcome from solar panels. Just wait until disposal has to come after 25 years of useful life. These panels are full of heavy metals.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:29 am to riccoar
see above beat you to it
beat you to itPosted on 1/24/25 at 10:30 am to stout
Someone check on Biljamin and his government gravy train that’s over
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:30 am to HubbaBubba
SOLAR FARMS KILL BIRDS
From Decatur's favorite liberal Climate rag; Scientific America.
Is Scientific America fake news now too, Decatur?
All we have to do is teach each and every bird to not go into the solar death traps and our problems will be solved!
From Decatur's favorite liberal Climate rag; Scientific America.
Is Scientific America fake news now too, Decatur?
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Much of the problem appears to lie in the “lake effect,” in which birds and their insect prey can mistake a reflective solar facility for a water body, or spot water ponds at the site, then hone in on it. Because of the power of the lake effect, the federal investigators described such solar farms as “mega-traps” in their report.
“I strongly believe there’s a way to show the birds that the PV panels are solid surfaces, not water,” said Ileene Anderson, a scientist at the Center for Biological Diversity, which is preparing to sue over Yuma clapper rail mortality at solar power plants.
All we have to do is teach each and every bird to not go into the solar death traps and our problems will be solved!
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 10:33 am
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:30 am to Decatur
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Solar fields kill animals?
Ever heard of rabbits, moles, field mice, birds, coyotes, deer, etc... Innumerable amount of wildlife lives in fields where these eye sores are put up. Or do you have a cuteness level an animal must attain before you put on your PITA vagina hat?
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Are folks putting up solar fields in residentially-zoned neighborhoods?
Depends.
Something you aren't smart enough to consider. These farmers are gladly taking the government money to lease or buy these areas where the solar farms are. The foundations of these panels in such quantity is substantial. In 20-30 years, when government is no longer leasing these areas, what happens to them? The farmer can't afford to rip them all out and make it farmland again. The government isn't going to come back and repair the damage and restore back to normal. What happens, is that the owner, if private, is left with the mess. And his solution will be to abandon the field. No sane person will purchase acres of defunct solar farms to try and utilize that real estate. Most of the surrounding area will be blight by then, and the real estate value is next to nothing. It doesnt' make sense to buy land you then have to spend a lot of money on ripping out panels, demo'ing foundations, excavating, testing the soil for hazardous material from the panels (which sure as shite there will be), paying to have the waste areas mitigated because that is mandated by the same government that caused it. Over excavate, then try to rebuild? A farm sure as shite isn't going back in that location. So it would have to be some sort of development. Who is going to waste that much money cleaning up land, in a low value real estate market?
If owned by the government, it will sit there, unused for decades because the tax dollars to repair these areas will not be approved. Government subsidized blight and land pollution is what you just caused.
Decatur, YOU are creating blight. But YOU don't give a shite because you love your eco-terrorist buddies. And if the Obama's tell you solar is good, you blindly accept it. You aren't capable of foresight, therefore you remain ignorant and prove it with a post like this.
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 10:33 am
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:32 am to CAD703X
I didn’t realize we had this many Sierra Club members worried about the birds.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:33 am to stout
Some of the coal fired plants that have closed ash ponds and ash landfills have covered them with Closure Turf. It is a synthetic covering that combines a geosynthhetic liner with artificial turf. They have installed solar panels on these areas. This application is not covering farmland or even grazing areas and in my opinion is the type of area suitable for solar farms. But covering farmland is a really bad idea.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:33 am to omegaman66
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Solar doesn't harm your property.
Depends how close you are. They have a massive heat island effect.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:34 am to omegaman66
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Yes but it isn't your property.
IDC. If you try to put one in my area I will get with my neighbors and fight it. You can't build a project that ruins my home's value. That's why zoning exists. Many of these projects seek to rezone land or go in areas where there is no zoning to avoid the fight because they know it will 100% ruin the value of everything around it.
I know you are biased because you are in the industry but by your logic what would you say if I want to dig a hole in a field next to your house and open up a public garbage dump? It's not your property so why should you care?
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:34 am to Decatur
quote:nice deflection from your bold assertion that solar farms don't kill birds.
I didn’t realize we had this many Sierra Club members worried about the birds.
when caught in a lie, change the subject.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:34 am to Decatur
If harry reid can lawfare a rancher to put panel farms in, then I'm fine with the opposite.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:35 am to BugAC
quote:to be fair, oil platforms are eyesores and disrupt marine life.
Innumerable amount of wildlife lives in fields where these eye sores are put up.
Not to mention the damage oil spills do. Not really comparable to a wind mill leak or solar panel spill.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:35 am to nugget
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Someone check on Biljamin and his government gravy train that’s over
He's a solar dealer?
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:38 am to 4cubbies
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to be fair, oil platforms are eyesores and disrupt marine life.
Not to mention the damage oil spills do. Not really comparable to a wind mill leak or solar panel spill.
The risk vs reward is greater with oil. Solar and wind are very inefficient for the space they consume and the damage they cause.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:38 am to BugAC
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In 20-30 years, when government is no longer leasing these areas, what happens to them? The farmer can't afford to rip them all out and make it farmland again. The government isn't going to come back and repair the damage and restore back to normal. What happens, is that the owner, if private, is left with the mess.
I’m not very familiar with solar leases. My assumption is that the energy companies lease the land and bring in the solar equipment. Any landowner should address the cleanup/removal in their contract.
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