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Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:27 am to Lynxrufus2012
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Some of the coal fired plants that have closed ash ponds and ash landfills have covered them with Closure Turf. It is a synthetic covering that combines a geosynthhetic liner with artificial turf. They have installed solar panels on these areas. This application is not covering farmland or even grazing areas and in my opinion is the type of area suitable for solar farms. But covering farmland is a really bad idea.
There is a finite quantity of arable land on earth. There is not a finite population. I'll never understand why any potential farmland/ranch land would be used for solar or wind.
However, someone could put this shite up in the deserts that are functionally useless and I would understand the benefit.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:28 am to Wraytex
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I'm against any ag land repurposed into green energy.
This! Using fertile ag land for solar and other renewable energy is absurd. Solar has its place and should be utilized i appropriate places
Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:30 am to fjlee90
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I'll never understand why any potential farmland/ranch land would be used for solar or wind.
Solar yes, but wind and ranching/farming coexist quite well.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:31 am to omegaman66
quote:Trump speak. I don’t see how Trump can stop privately funded solar on private lands. Public lands? Maybe new contracts, but I don’t think there’s a ton of solar going in on federal land
This may affect me. A private company can't build a solar farm now? Point me to the EO.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:31 am to fjlee90
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However, someone could put this shite up in the deserts that are functionally useless and I would understand the benefit.
The problem is that there is little population thus little demand in the desert and to get power to population centers you incur losses.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:33 am to billjamin
quote:C’mon man! That tariff is going to start working any day.. any day…
Which seems doubtful with as much manufacturing is moving to the US right now.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:36 am to Taxing Authority
quote:Yes, this probably means cutting incentives and tax breaks which is a good thing.
Trump speak.
quote:They are doing it on military bases .
I don’t think there’s a ton of solar going in on federal land
Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:38 am to tgdawg68
quote:I don’t think a president can repeal tax laws.
Yes, this probably means cutting incentives and tax breaks which is a good thing.
quote:Yeah, but that’s not a lot of the market
They are doing it on military bases .
Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:39 am to Average_Comments
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You do realize farming, agriculture, oil and gas and many other industries also get subsidies?
So do people that don't work
Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:41 am to tgdawg68
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Yes, this probably means cutting incentives and tax breaks which is a good thing.
I don't think thats what's happening here unless there's an EO i missed.
What i've seen is targeting federal leases for wind projects, most of which are offshore.
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They are doing it on military bases .
There's a poster here who does this. They don't do a ton of it, but its mostly just for self consumption of the base and they install storage so they can go off-grid if needed.
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 11:42 am
Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:41 am to billjamin
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Doubtful. I was talking to someone in govt relations a couple weeks ago and they said that congress would have to make that change. Which seems doubtful with as much manufacturing is moving to the US right now.
sounds like it is more of a pause in approving the credits while they evaluate the program.
i dont see the battery storage going away as TESLA makes the MEGA packs that fall under the ITC credit
Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:43 am to Taxing Authority
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That tariff is going to start working any day.. any day…
Any day.
Solar is an interesting case study to look at the difference in industry reaction to tariffs vs incentives.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:44 am to billjamin
quote:The problem being… if those leases can be revoked by presidential SO, so can OCS O&G leases.
What i've seen is targeting federal leases for wind projects, most of which are offshore.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:47 am to billjamin
quote:Yep. And it’s not a manufacturing that require insane capex like steel or other heavy industry that tariffs are supposed to bring back.
Solar is an interesting case study to look at the difference in industry reaction to tariffs vs incentives.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:53 am to stout
I agree the windmill farms and solar farms on a massive scale seem unsustainable, given the life-cycle and potential environmental impacts, especially offshore wind and the gigantic blades. However, I think low level off the grid tactics need to be encouraged to some point, as there are thousands of YT videos of people seemingly happy with their investment. I don't think Trump is throwing shade on that aspect. As for wind, there are a lot of small scale spiral type wind turbines that are less harmful to nature that could be used on a local level. Perhaps that's the better play in the short-term.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 12:01 pm to billjamin
quote:And only in America would we tariff a product, and offer tax incentives for installing it at the same time
Solar is an interesting case study to look at the difference in industry reaction to tariffs vs incentives.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 12:06 pm to Taxing Authority
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And only in America would we tariff a product, and offer tax incentives for installing it at the same time
Right. The lobbyist are the only ones who win.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 12:17 pm to Taxing Authority
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Trump speak. I don’t see how Trump can stop privately funded solar on private lands. Public lands? Maybe new contracts, but I don’t think there’s a ton of solar going in on federal land
I don't think??? any action has been taken. I believe it might be talk of removing subsidies. Which in theory I am in favor off. I am staunchly against the govt picking winners and losers. Free market should decide.
For example if you want gas car. buy one. If you want ev buy one. if you want hydrogen car buy one. It is wrong and bad policy for the gov't to decide for you what you should drive by making it cheaper for you to buy one when in reality it cost more.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 12:20 pm to omegaman66
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I believe it might be talk of removing subsidies.
I don't think he can override tax law passed by congress via EO.
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