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re: Trump said he did not know Putin's Helicopter was attacked by Ukrainian Drones

Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:56 pm to
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And Trump's gonna cough up more.


Yup. That, and more meaningless sanctions which will only drive Russia more into the Chinese camp.

Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:58 pm to
Neither did I.


Huh.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:59 pm to
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Yup. That, and more meaningless sanctions which will only drive Russia more into the Chinese camp.



I remember all these dumb frickin' fantasies this board had that Trump was going to cut off Ukraine and leave them flailing in the wind.

Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 2:00 pm to
Meh I prefer they both fricking bleed out.
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 2:09 pm to
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His staff is not competent if they did not inform him about this.



Lol.... yeah, his staff hasn't proven its competency yet. Smh.
Overall, Trumps admin is exceeding expectations.
Who gives two shits of Trump knew about drones attacking Putins helicopter???
That's important for Putin and Russia, not for the US.


Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 2:19 pm to
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I remember all these dumb frickin' fantasies this board had that Trump was going to cut off Ukraine and leave them flailing in the wind.


I will admit it. I took Trump seriously when he said it wasn't our war.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 2:20 pm to
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Who gives two shits of Trump knew about drones attacking Putins helicopter???


Are you being serious? If Putin’s Helicopter was attacked by Zelensky and Trump knew about it but did not have a problem with it, that means he has no intentions of ending the War. That would be a serious escalation that would drastically increase the intensity of the War which I believe Trump is trying to prevent from happening. It is clear from that Video that Trump had no idea of those reports and he was caught off guard. This better be a wakeup call for him before he loses complete control to the Neocons
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 2:51 pm to
Trump is crazy as a fox. While he may not have heard it from his intel, he may be flushing out assets who are not feeding him pertinent info. I doubt JD or Rubio didn't hear it and relay it back to him.

He may still be able to clear out his intel. Having a reporter break that important bit of info to you instead of your info team is not a good look.
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 2:54 pm to
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I remember all these dumb frickin' fantasies this board had that Trump was going to cut off Ukraine and leave them flailing in the wind.



Christmas ain't over yet. It's been what 4 months? And there was a cut off pause to let Ukrainians know to play ball, but they're still not. I think he's gradually building the foundation to remove the support and let the Europeans deal with the Kiev midget. He's probably going to completely isolate any dialogue with Kiev if an agreement isn't done quickly. Zelensky is a dead man walking as it is, if reports about Ukros trying to gun down Putin's heli are true. And even if they're not true, the fact that Russians put it out there means they are signaling they want the midget gone and created a premise for it.
This post was edited on 5/26/25 at 2:56 pm
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 2:56 pm to
Really makes you think
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:01 pm to



[Phone rings. Secure line connects.]

Trump: Vladimir, it’s me, Donald. I just heard about this drone thing. Crazy stuff! You okay? I mean, Ukrainian drones? What’s going on over there?

Putin: [Calm, measured tone] Donald, good to hear from you. Yes, I am fine. The situation was… handled. These are desperate moves from a desperate regime. Kyiv is losing, and they resort to stunts like this.

Trump: I knew it! I said, nobody’s tougher than you, Vlad. Nobody. But drones? That’s low, even for them. I mean, I’ve got the best security, Secret Service, top-notch, but you must’ve been like, “Not today!” Right? What happened?

Putin: [Dry chuckle] Let’s just say our air defenses are not for show. They tried to make a point, but it was a loud noise, nothing more. We intercepted them far from anything important. Their toys don’t scare us.

Trump: Toys! That’s good. I like that. Look, I told everybody, Ukraine’s a mess, total disaster. Billions of dollars, my dollars—well, America’s dollars—going to Zelenskyy, and now they’re pulling this? Drones on you? Bad move. Very bad. I’d never let that happen on my watch. What’s your next step?

Putin: [Cool, deliberate] We respond as always, Donald. With strength. Ukraine will feel the consequences. This changes nothing in our operation. They cannot stop what is inevitable. You understand this, yes?

Trump: Oh, absolutely. Strength, that’s what it’s about. I always said, you’re a strong guy, I’m a strong guy, we get it. Weak leaders, they fold. Not us. Look, I’m getting calls, people saying, “Mr. President, what’s Putin gonna do?” I said, “He’s got it under control.” But the media here, fake news, they’re spinning it like Ukraine’s winning. Can you believe that?

Putin: [Slightly amused] Your media, always the same. They see what they want to see. The reality is on the ground, Donald. Ukraine is crumbling. This drone stunt is their panic showing. Let your media spin their stories. It changes nothing.

Trump: Exactly! They’re panicking. I saw the clips, by the way—those drones? Looked like something out of a bad sci-fi movie. Not even close to Mar-a-Lago security levels, let me tell you. You gonna hit back hard? I mean, you gotta send a message, right?

Putin: [Firmly] Messages are sent in actions, not words. We are handling it. But I appreciate your call, Donald. It is good to know who understands the game.

Trump: Hey, I always understood, Vlad. Always. Look, we’ll talk soon, maybe get together, play some golf, no drones, just us strong leaders. Stay safe, okay? Nobody wants to see anything happen to you. Tremendous respect, really.

Putin: [Polite but reserved] Thank you, Donald. Golf sounds… interesting. We will speak again. Take care.

Trump: You got it! Best to you, Vlad. Tell those Ukrainians they’re in big trouble. Big!

[Call ends.]

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:03 pm to
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If Putin’s Helicopter was attacked by Zelensky
What proof do you have that the Ukrainian military knew Putin was on board the helicopter? Yeah, that's what I thought...you don't.

There's likely a 50-50 chance all they knew was a large (82 feet long), troop transport style Russian military helicopter was flying near Kursk and the Ukes wanted to take out any Russian troops on board.

Or, do you think the Russians painted a big Presidential seal on the side of the helicopter? Or, maybe the helicopter had a bumper sticker which said, "Putin On Board."
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:03 pm to
How could he not know? Just raad the fricking news.
Posted by OchoDedos
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:04 pm to
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Trump said he did not know Putin's Helicopter was attacked by Ukrainian Drones

Because it wasn't

Welcome to the world of Soviet styled false flags and FSB manipulation of Putin fan bois
Posted by John Barron
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Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:12 pm to
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Because it wasn't


Even if you believe Putin’s Helicopter was not attacked by Ukraine Drones... Trump also never mentioned Ukraine attacking Moscow for 3 days with Drones which has been confirmed by multiple Western news sources. That means Trump is not being informed about it which led him to saying I can't understand why Putin is attacking Kiev. That is the whole point of the post, Trump is obviously not getting the full story on what is going on in regards to the Ukraine/Russia War.

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This post was edited on 5/26/25 at 3:15 pm
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:16 pm to
On noes muh mentions!
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:17 pm to
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Who gives two shits of Trump knew about drones attacking Putins helicopter???
That's important for Putin and Russia, not for the US.

It gives Trump the option to back track on saying he doesn't know what's happened to Putin.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:18 pm to
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think he's gradually building the foundation to remove the support and let the Europeans deal with the Kiev midget


The moment passed when he didn't pull the trigger IMMEDIATELY after Zelenskyy's White House visit. THAT was the perfect time. The foundation was already set.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:22 pm to
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It gives Trump the option to back track on saying he doesn't know what's happened to Putin.


Trump really had a genuine moment there..."oh, maybe that explains why Putin did that [wonder why I hadn't heard that?]"
Posted by John Barron
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Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:23 pm to
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The moment passed when he didn't pull the trigger IMMEDIATELY after Zelenskyy's White House visit. THAT was the perfect time. The foundation was already set.


This is a point that nobody can argue with. When Lindsey Graham was going on TV saying he no longer knew if America could do business with Zelensky, that was the perfect moment to tell Zelensky he either signs the Peace Agreement or all aid and weapons are cut off.
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