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re: Trump revokes Executive Order 11246 (LBJ signed in 1965) establishing Affirmative Action

Posted on 1/21/25 at 11:07 pm to
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29741 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 11:07 pm to
This goes after Universities as well.

Trump’s new anti-DEI executive order requires the Attorney General and the Secretary of Education to provide guidance to universities on complying with the Supreme Court’s affirmative action decision:

“Sec. 5. Other Actions. Within 120 days of this order, the Attorney General and the Secretary of Education shall jointly issue guidance to all State and local educational agencies that receive Federal funds, as well as all institutions of higher education that receive Federal grants or participate in the Federal student loan assistance program under Title IV of the Higher Education Act, 20 U.S.C. 1070 et seq., regarding the measures and practices required to comply with Students for Fair Admissions, Inc. v. President and Fellows of Harvard College, 600 U.S. 181 (2023).”
This post was edited on 1/21/25 at 11:08 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 11:30 pm to
Hallelujah
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 11:34 pm to
Whoa, Nellie! That's gonna cause some shock waves.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
9998 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 11:34 pm to
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream today!"

DEI and affirmation action has warped this dream for political power and money. Time for it to end. NOW.
Posted by TriStateAreaFootball
Member since Dec 2024
2142 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 11:37 pm to
This was released late for a reason. This is one of the Sacred Cows. There will be fierce backlash. Would not have believed it without reading the executive order myself. None of this feels real.

The government hasn’t had any major “constriction” since this country’s founding.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39418 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 11:59 pm to
Its amazing we have two generations of Americans who grew up without meritocracy.
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6707 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 12:06 am to
quote:

I'm still trying to figure out why this did not also apply to sports entities. Oh yeah, sports are based on athletic ability unlike other businesses which aren't based on a person's ability.


I would like to hear SlowBlowPro's opinion on this.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 12:42 am to
quote:

meritocracy


The word goes back to the 1950s, it was coined by the English communist Alan Fox

The idea took off much later but not in the way you would imagine. The revolutionaries used it as a weapon to destroy and then replace the existing ruling class
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
7623 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 12:44 am to
It is required on highway jobs that a percentage of contractors be minorities. Usually a minority company is awarded to check this block knowing one of the other companies will need to pick up the slack.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51880 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 1:26 am to
Every September, my account managers would get calls from government agencies saying, "I have budget dollars to spend but I need an 8(a) contractor."

So, we had a list of 8(a) contractors we'd put them in touch with. We'd give them our standard, non-discount, and very profitable price, and then the 8(a) contractor would typically add 50%+ for handling the paperwork. They'd get the order, then they would contract with us, and everyone made money.

It's a fricked up system that cost the taxpayers an awful lot of extra costs over what it should be.

* For those that don't know, an 8(a)contractor is a small business that has been certified by the Small Business Administration (SBA) to compete for federal contracts. This helps socially and economically disadvantaged businesses (women owned, minority owned, disabled owned, veteran owned, disabled veteran owned, native American, etc.. to gain access to government contracts.

While I applaud the elimination of affirmative action, and while I agree this will save the taxpayers tax dollars, it is going to have serious ramifications on small businesses.
Posted by TechBullDawg
Member since May 2014
2527 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 4:37 am to
All those gender/race degrees now worthless. Maybe learn to code?
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
3140 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 5:49 am to
Academia has been desperately needing an overhaul for a long while.

They finally screwed the pooch with the whole antisemitism movement, and now Trump is effectively turning off the money for the progressive's racist, bigoted bullshite.
Posted by aldawg2323
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2010
494 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 6:02 am to
it is going to have serious ramifications on small businesses.

please elaborate. i know two 8A contractors - one majority-minority owned and one women-owned. both talked about at some point soon they would be "graduated" from this certification. what do you predict occurring?
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
10569 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 6:41 am to
My heart isn't ready for some of these announcement I've read in the mornings.


Just say'n.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49529 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:41 am to
quote:

he went on about how they are working to promote minorities etc. I was too much of a pussy to ask why promotion wasn’t based solely on the members record with no external factors. That moment still stands out to me though and is something I will always remember

Most of us old timers have similar episodes of uncertainty and failure to express reservations about 'what could happen' with partiality being a required element, rather than an outlawed element, in job assignments and promotions.

I didn't speak out either. But at that time the overall sentiment was that "this could actually work out great for everyone" and stymied the thoughts of 'what could go wrong'

And then we watched the thing slowly - and purposefully 'go wrong' - and have had to live with our 'what ifs' ever since.

I'm out of the rat race now, and still wish someone had demanded a bit more training wheels attached to that first declaration.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82372 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:49 am to
quote:

it is going to have serious ramifications on small businesses.


they fricked and trusted that government programs are forever
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20091 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:11 am to
quote:

So, we had a list of 8(a) contractors we'd put them in touch with. We'd give them our standard, non-discount, and very profitable price, and then the 8(a) contractor would typically add 50%+ for handling the paperwork. They'd get the order, then they would contract with us, and everyone made money.



This happens more than anyone thinks. We could probably save a trillion dollars while providing the same services just by working with the subcontractors directly rather than via a minority middle man.
Posted by corneredbeast
02134
Member since Sep 2008
2302 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:21 am to
Good. Dig him up and shart in his skull. Call it a democrat brain transplant.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:28 am to
Not tired of all this winning Mr. President!
Posted by liquid rabbit
Boxtard BPB®© emeritus
Member since Mar 2006
64968 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:29 am to
I deeply regret that I have but one upvote to give this glorious order.
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