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re: Trump Repeatedly Pressed Ukraine President to Investigate Biden’s Son

Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:25 pm to
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Yes, because they retroactively went back and manufactured documents to support a timeline which proves that they wanted the prosecutor fired?

i mean they did use foreign governments to pressure our government into investigating Trump, so anything's possible
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27420 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:26 pm to
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Yes, because they retroactively went back and manufactured documents to support a timeline which proves that they wanted the prosecutor fired?


You think they might have wiped anything or deleted anything during that time?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:26 pm to
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No, he's telling him to investigate someone specifically... the son of his political opponent... that's an unethical abuse of power.



Hmm.........so............attacking the people close to a political opponent for the purpose of possibly ruining them or jailing them is..........bad?

The frick you say!!!!
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:26 pm to
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You’re missing the entire point of my post

Let’s say there was similar nuance and backstory to my hypothetical

Would you be on here posting about it....or would you be on here blaring the headline that “trump bragged about firing prosecutor who was investigating son”

Be honest.



I didn't write the headline, I just copied it from the article.

But I'm here, not running from any of the nuance... It's not a clear Quid pro Quo
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22714 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:27 pm to
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What's ironic is that Biden was pushing for the firing of the Ukrainian prosecutor because he wasn't doing enough to prosecute corruption there.




And once again, there's no way that you believe this.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:27 pm to
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i mean they did use foreign governments to pressure our government into investigating Trump, so anything's possible


Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:28 pm to
Think trump will press him some more when he meets with him next week?

Hahahaha
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135223 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:29 pm to
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Is is ethical to ask the leader of a foreign government to prosecute your political opponent?

Was it ethical for Biden to threaten Ukraine if they didn't call off their investigation of his son?
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:30 pm to
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What's ironic is that Biden was pushing for the firing of the Ukrainian prosecutor because he wasn't doing enough to prosecute corruption there.




And once again, there's no way that you believe this.


I do, because the internet...

quote:

Biden has publicly insisted that the Ukrainian authorities get tougher on corruption. He even made an impassioned speech about it to the Ukrainian parliament in 2015.


LINK
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19175 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:30 pm to
Here you go, video proof of Biden bragging about getting the Ukranian prosecutor fired. You were saying?
LINK
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425871 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:30 pm to
Stefan Halper is a British asset

Alexander Downer is an Australian asset

Joseph Mifsud is an asset of a Western nation (not sure which, possibly Italy)

they all were used by these governments to concoct a story that was used to pressure the US to investigate Trump

it didn't go so well, but it happened. you were a big supporter of this in real time, too.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:31 pm to
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doesn't matter that he did it


Why do you give a shite.

You didnt give a shite when obama weaponized the IRS against innocent political opponents and then weaponized the intellegence community against a presidential candidate while Hillary made backroom deals with the DNC to shut down Bernie's chances and then made deals with CNN and MSNBC to rig debates while taking in massive sums of money from Saudi Arabia.

But you're upset Trump silently asked for an investigation into a possible criminal?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:31 pm to
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Was it ethical for Biden to threaten Ukraine if they didn't call off their investigation of his son?



DC actually said he doesn't think Biden knew the man he was trying to get fired was investigating his son.

That's the level of dishonest required to be that POS.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:31 pm to
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Was it ethical for Biden to threaten Ukraine if they didn't call off their investigation of his son?


That would be unethical and illegal.

And it didn't happen.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
58065 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:31 pm to
I’m not sure why you’re posting a confused face, when it has been verified that the DNC paid Russia/Ukraine/Steele to fabricate (or collect fabricated stories) to try and take down trump, in addition to attempting a trap to draw in Don Jr and others with as dems say, “an agent of the Ukrainian government”.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:31 pm to
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It's clearly not a Quid pro Quo




FIFY
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:32 pm to
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I do, because the internet...

And, of course, the dude he wanted fired investigating his son............yeah..........you think he didn't know that part.

Aren't you even slightly embarrassed by this line of argument?
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:32 pm to
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And it didn't happen.


Except for when it did happen.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:33 pm to
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Here you go, video proof of Biden bragging about getting the Ukranian prosecutor fired. You were saying?
LINK


Again, i've seen this video and nowhere in it does he mention his son at all.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56952 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:33 pm to
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Yes, because they retroactively went back and manufactured documents to support a timeline which proves that they wanted the prosecutor fired?



Or, they proactively created documents to support a future effort to blackmail and/or justify improper influence.
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