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re: “Trump pushed the vax”
Posted on 8/1/26 at 9:44 am to SallysHuman
Posted on 8/1/26 at 9:44 am to SallysHuman
Neither Covid nor the vaccine are factual debated on this forum.
It has been reduced to:
If you think Covid was a real public health threat and the vaccine is worthwhile, you must be a liberal ****.
Posted on 8/1/26 at 9:47 am to VOR
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Neither Covid nor the vaccine are factual debated on this forum.
I gave you numbers and stats straight from the .gov and google.
What’s more factual than actual data?
Posted on 8/1/26 at 9:52 am to Purple Spoon
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You realize you can vote for Someone and still be critical or disagree with some of the shite they do right? Trump cut red tape to allow for vaccine development. The vaccine was made mandatory for healthcare workers and military in 2021.
Careful he’s going to accuse you of never voting for him
Flip side of the same proggy outrage mobs that used to roam X.
Posted on 8/1/26 at 10:07 am to Diego Ricardo
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Didn't Trump boost Project Warp Speed right up until the moment he wasn't going to be in office to enjoy the benefits of it?
Hell, he was pumping it up leading up to the 2024 Primary until Alex Jones threatened to “go to war” with President Trump over it. Suddenly…no more promoting of Project Warp Speed as a great accomplishment.
Scared away by Alex fricking Jones.
This post was edited on 8/1/26 at 10:08 am
Posted on 8/1/26 at 10:27 am to VOR
No one disagrees with making it available for older, higher risk people and voluntary for others.
Many people disagreed, strongly, about mandating for others (especially children) and instituting punitive measures for non-compliance, such as travel restrictions, not being able to participate in events and in the extreme loss of employment.
This move led to the questioning of the credibility of those making these decisions which led to the realization of very real conflicts of interest such as age bias ( Trump, Biden, Fauci, Pelosi, McConnell, Schumer were all near or were Octogenarians and highest risk group so bias for self interest even benefits were on shown to the individuals vaccinated and never to stop transmission) or personal bias with Fauci as he was on record as supporting gain of function research which may have been the root cause of the pandemic.
As an aside, the lack of effectiveness for slowing transmission is probably related to the fact that RNA vaccines only give short term (measured in weeks) immunity so the fact of many infections post-vaccination and the early introduction of boosters also
led to questions of credibility in a “gene therapy vaccine” which has long term risk implications if the transgenes become integrated.
I never saw published the estimated therapeutic index or the Number needed to treat (NNT) in order to prevent a death or Number needed to harm, which is a measure of the number vaccinated with a severe adverse event/total vaccinated. Ideally the NNT should be much higher, but we never saw this, so again leads to credibility issues.
Many people disagreed, strongly, about mandating for others (especially children) and instituting punitive measures for non-compliance, such as travel restrictions, not being able to participate in events and in the extreme loss of employment.
This move led to the questioning of the credibility of those making these decisions which led to the realization of very real conflicts of interest such as age bias ( Trump, Biden, Fauci, Pelosi, McConnell, Schumer were all near or were Octogenarians and highest risk group so bias for self interest even benefits were on shown to the individuals vaccinated and never to stop transmission) or personal bias with Fauci as he was on record as supporting gain of function research which may have been the root cause of the pandemic.
As an aside, the lack of effectiveness for slowing transmission is probably related to the fact that RNA vaccines only give short term (measured in weeks) immunity so the fact of many infections post-vaccination and the early introduction of boosters also
led to questions of credibility in a “gene therapy vaccine” which has long term risk implications if the transgenes become integrated.
I never saw published the estimated therapeutic index or the Number needed to treat (NNT) in order to prevent a death or Number needed to harm, which is a measure of the number vaccinated with a severe adverse event/total vaccinated. Ideally the NNT should be much higher, but we never saw this, so again leads to credibility issues.
Posted on 8/1/26 at 10:37 am to Aubie Spr96
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Every truly draconian thing that the federal government’s has brought us has been at the hands of a Republican president.
Horse shite.
December 31, 2011. An article of the NDAA was signed into law that a suspect could be held indefinitely without trial, without charges.
Only on suspicion.
It wasn't a Republican that signed that abyssmal violation of constitutional and human rights.
This post was edited on 8/1/26 at 10:40 am
Posted on 8/1/26 at 12:21 pm to SallysHuman
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What’s more factual than actual data?
I only wish to remind people of just how badly Democrats tend to skew numbers. Especially the numbers about COVID. So, I'd take the numbers on the gov't site with a grain of salt.
Posted on 8/1/26 at 12:57 pm to VOR
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In the main analysis, the result was more than 2.5 million.
These are fanciful projections.
If the whole world had flu deaths at the rate of the United States, and you doubled that. And then prevented every single double rate flu deaths, you’d have 1.2M lives saved.
So I’m pretty sure their number is bullshite.
Posted on 8/1/26 at 1:18 pm to DeBoar
How many times does it have to be said. Nobody cares about the shot. It was Joe Biden’s MANDATES that were the problem and the major cause of friction with the shot. End of story.
Until the mandates, nobody cared about the shot because it was a choice.
Until the mandates, nobody cared about the shot because it was a choice.
This post was edited on 8/1/26 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 8/1/26 at 1:30 pm to SallysHuman
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Trump did advocate for the vax.
He also said several times he was mostly pushing it for the elderly or those who may have immune issues. He was railed by the media for suggesting if you're healthy make your own choice or finding alternatives
Posted on 8/1/26 at 4:54 pm to DeBoar
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Yep downvote away because you got the vax
No, you get downvoted because you're giblet head retard who wouldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight.
Posted on 8/1/26 at 5:11 pm to Ingeniero
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because the vaccine was, at worst, less effective than originally thought.
No, at worst, it has caused a shite ton of auto immune disorders and turbo cancers and God knows what else.
Posted on 8/1/26 at 6:00 pm to DeBoar
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Yep downvote away because you got the vax
No dumbarse most of us didn’t get the clot shot like your fig arse did.
Pureblood checking in.
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