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Posted on 9/21/23 at 8:40 am to Kjnstkmn
Our lower wage earners are the ones who are hurt most by this invasion.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 8:46 am to redandright
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The fictional gators ought to do the trick.
Unless there’s a hurricane anywhere nearby, then they’ll cancel.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 8:47 am to Kjnstkmn
How many did he deport last time? He had a good reason because Covid
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:15 am to Cosmo
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Meh, they were still streaming across, just not as fast as they are now
After "streaming across", were they flown and/or bussed deeper into America and hosted by the US taxpayer? Or were they flown and/or bussed back across the border?
That's the biggest difference.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:18 am to SDVTiger
Trump had a GOP Congress and didn't do it last time. When the rubber met the road he backed off and tried to work out the stupid Immigration bill with pennies for the Wall and Amnesty for illegals. Fortunately guys like DeSantis stood up to him.
Trump always loves to bluster but he didn't back up the big talk, he wanted to be liked and to make a deal. All he did was get fricked. Now you can't wait to sign up for Round 2 because THIS TIME it will be different!
God forbid we elect the guy that delivers on campaign promises and stood up to Fauci and Disney and other sacred cows and won.
Trump always loves to bluster but he didn't back up the big talk, he wanted to be liked and to make a deal. All he did was get fricked. Now you can't wait to sign up for Round 2 because THIS TIME it will be different!
God forbid we elect the guy that delivers on campaign promises and stood up to Fauci and Disney and other sacred cows and won.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:49 am to JoeHackett
The numbers of deported folks went down during the Trump years because the number of people crossing the border went down dramatically when Trump ended catch and release.
Trump was able to do some things, but his hands were tied on others. Remember how he tried to end the DACA EO and the courts shot him down? He tried to keep children with their parents together, but the courts killed that, too.
So, yes, deportations went down, just like border crossings went down. Trump could not increase deportations without help from Congress. It also is a waste of time to spend more resources on deportation while the border is wide open. Build the wall and then address the illegals in this country.
Illegal immigration, just like abortion and gun control is a reliable wedge issue that both sides use to stir up their constituents when voter enthusiasm wanes in pepetuity. Neither side wants to take this issue off the table with a permanent solution.
This explains why the Republicans give lip service to the issue, but never pass meaningful legislation to address it. They didn't even fund the wall they all pretended to support, even when they had majority in both the House and the Senate. They should have been a no brainer. Hell, we've sent 5x as much money to Ukraine as it would have taken to build the wall...
Trump was able to do some things, but his hands were tied on others. Remember how he tried to end the DACA EO and the courts shot him down? He tried to keep children with their parents together, but the courts killed that, too.
So, yes, deportations went down, just like border crossings went down. Trump could not increase deportations without help from Congress. It also is a waste of time to spend more resources on deportation while the border is wide open. Build the wall and then address the illegals in this country.
Illegal immigration, just like abortion and gun control is a reliable wedge issue that both sides use to stir up their constituents when voter enthusiasm wanes in pepetuity. Neither side wants to take this issue off the table with a permanent solution.
This explains why the Republicans give lip service to the issue, but never pass meaningful legislation to address it. They didn't even fund the wall they all pretended to support, even when they had majority in both the House and the Senate. They should have been a no brainer. Hell, we've sent 5x as much money to Ukraine as it would have taken to build the wall...
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:03 am to Jax-Tiger
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The numbers of deported folks went down during the Trump years because the number of people crossing the border went down dramatically when Trump ended catch and release.
There are at least 30 million illegals in the interior. Most of those people were here the day Trump took office. A decrease of border crossers didn't decrease the supply of people needing to be deported.
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Trump could not increase deportations without help from Congress.
Then he should explain why this time will be different. But he can't or won't because that would mean admitting that he failed in his first term.
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Illegal immigration, just like abortion and gun control is a reliable wedge issue that both sides use to stir up their constituents when voter enthusiasm wanes in pepetuity. Neither side wants to take this issue off the table with a permanent solution.
Right, which is why Trump was elected to solve the problem. Not run on the problem again 8 years later.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:06 am to Kjnstkmn
Let me guess, it's going to be different this time.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:07 am to Kjnstkmn
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‘Largest Domestic Deportation Operation in American History’
Daisy if he does.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:10 am to Kjnstkmn
frick us sideways and keep pimpin
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:14 am to jbdawgs03
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Look at the Ronbots swarm
I have to admire their tenacity. No chance in hell but you'd never know by their dedication.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:14 am to Kjnstkmn
The mad ones in this thread
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:16 am to aggressor
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Trump had a GOP Congress and didn't do it last time.
Free Beer Tomorrow!!!
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:25 am to momentoftruth87
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The mad ones in this thread
I am pretty mad about it. I'm mad that he ran on this 8 years ago and didn't do it. And I'm mad that for some reason people don't care. Also mad that those same people are falling for his obvious lies.
I see Democrats as lying scumbags. You guys see Democrats as role models.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:32 am to JoeHackett
Whatever you say Jon
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:34 am to Kjnstkmn
What are the odds that once again we'll be treated to another uncomfortable scene of Chuck Schumer up before the House forcing himself to cry, while attempting to recite excerpts from the platitudes written on the Statue of Liberty by a Socialist.
(Nothing more memorable or unsettling than watching a grown man forcing himself to cry in public for emotional appeal in a naive attempt to effect a political objective.)
Schumer and friends have only seen these illegals as little more than future mindless automatons voting Democrat.
Am sure Schumer and the others are salivating over today's report that 45,000 from central America or wherever who will be given work permits and other benefits to lessen their anxiety about being illegal here.
Of course none of it involving anything about the critical toss-up states for the future.
(Nothing more memorable or unsettling than watching a grown man forcing himself to cry in public for emotional appeal in a naive attempt to effect a political objective.)
Schumer and friends have only seen these illegals as little more than future mindless automatons voting Democrat.
Am sure Schumer and the others are salivating over today's report that 45,000 from central America or wherever who will be given work permits and other benefits to lessen their anxiety about being illegal here.
Of course none of it involving anything about the critical toss-up states for the future.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:43 am to Kjnstkmn
Doubt it ever happens. He followed through on a lot of things his first term but this wasn't one of them.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:47 am to JoeHackett
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Unfortunately I don't think his supporters really care.
I mean im waiting to hear who you guys support that will do something about our border.
The wall would have been built if Biden didnt stop it.
And again, all we heard was how much a piece of shite Trump was for his treatment of illegals.
So which is it?
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Let's address that rather than use ad hominem attacks.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 11:50 am
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:53 am to JoeHackett
From your article...
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But the large number of deportations promised has remained elusive, mostly due to resistance from state and local officials who have advanced “sanctuary” policies that limit cooperation with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).
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If granted a second term, Trump is likely to make arrests and removals of deportable noncitizens even more of a priority. On the other hand, if Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden wins, he will be under immense pressure to reverse the Trump policies and revert, at a minimum, to those in place at the end of the Obama administration, which protected the vast majority of unauthorized immigrants from arrest and removal.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 11:56 am
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