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re: Trump posts about Joe Rogan

Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by skullhawk
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Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:24 pm to
Trump is going blow it, isn't he?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:24 pm to
Successful is a matter of perspective.

I despise Obama.

But from the left wing point of view, Obama was extremely successful.

Trump was not as successful as that from the right. He may have been successful, but not as successful as Obama was.

That’s just a fact it’s not really a debatable point.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8528 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:24 pm to
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Trump ran on repealing it and failed.



Your boy McCain. I'm sure you were proud.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9049 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:26 pm to
Just a stupid fricking moron.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467010 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:26 pm to
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Your boy McCain. I'm sure you were proud.

I took almost as much heat for hating McCain in 2008 that I do disagreeing with Trump in 2024

The irony is that the guys upset with me for hating McCain are the ones melting down on me being slightly critical of Trump today, who profess they hated McCain back in 2008

It's almost like...intellectual consistency is rare on here
This post was edited on 8/9/24 at 3:27 pm
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89775 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

Trump ran on repealing it and failed.


did Trump really fail or was the vote sandbagged by three Uniparty Dickheads?

quote:

(Sen. John McCain of Arizona speaking with reporters at the Capitol in Washington on Thursday.AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

Sen. John McCain was one of three Republicans to vote against the GOP healthcare plan early Friday morning, and he is being credited with the decisive vote that killed the so-called Obamacare "skinny repeal."

"We should not make the mistakes of the past that has led to Obamacare's collapse, including in my home state of Arizona where premiums are skyrocketing and healthcare providers are fleeing the marketplace," McCain said in a statement.

All 48 Democrats voted no. In joining fellow Republicans Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Susan Collins of Maine, who had previously expressed concern with the GOP’s repeal strategy, McCain was seen as casting the deciding vote.

McCain had returned to Washington for the healthcare vote on Tuesday, nearly a week after his office announced he had brain cancer. The Arizona senator delivered a powerful speech from the Senate floor Tuesday, focusing on a need to return to a more bipartisan approach.

Shortly before the vote, it appeared that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Vice President Mike Pence were attempting to persuade McCain to change his mind; the three were seen talking before the vote, but the senator stuck with his "no," effectively ending the bill.

McCain released the following statement early Friday morning:

"From the beginning, I have believed that Obamacare should be repealed and replaced with a solution that increases competition, lowers costs, and improves care for the American people. The so-called "skinny repeal" amendment the Senate voted on today would not accomplish those goals. While the amendment would have repealed some of Obamacare's most burdensome regulations, it offered no replacement to actually reform our health care system and deliver affordable, quality health care to our citizens. The Speaker's statement that the House would be "willing" to go to conference does not ease my concern that this shell of a bill could be taken up and passed at any time.

"I've stated time and time again that one of the major failures of Obamacare was that it was rammed through Congress by Democrats on a strict-party line basis without a single Republican vote. We should not make the mistakes of the past that has led to Obamacare's collapse, including in my home state of Arizona where premiums are skyrocketing and health care providers are fleeing the marketplace. We must now return to the correct way of legislating and send the bill back to committee, hold hearings, receive input from both sides of aisle, heed the recommendations of nation's governors, and produce a bill that finally delivers affordable health care for the American people. We must do the hard work our citizens expect of us and deserve."
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467010 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:27 pm to
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was the vote sandbagged by three Uniparty Dickheads?

It was sandbagged by people mad at Trump for doing the exact stupid bullshite referenced in OP.

Trump wildly talking shite with no plan other than to excite the idiocracy cost him, bigly.

If you want THE example of how Trump's off the cuff, unwarranted stupidity can come back to hurt him, look at the ACA repeal failure
This post was edited on 8/9/24 at 3:28 pm
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89775 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:28 pm to
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Acting like a week’s worth of comments in line with Trump’s 40 year history is somehow big in the grand scheme of things is emotional, silly thinking. Trump is who he is. This idea he can turn into Glenn Youngkin or Romney for three months is ridiculous.


Trump has been a troll for his adult life, why would he be any different now?

last week it was brian kemp
this week it is joe rogan
who are they clutching their pearls for next week?
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
32257 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:28 pm to
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But from the left wing point of view, Obama was extremely successful.

Trump was not as successful as that from the right. He may have been successful, but not as successful as Obama was.


One instituted partisan control of many aspects of our country & is wielding that power to this day
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
9132 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:31 pm to
This is just not smart. Millions of Trump voters listen to Joe Rogan. No need to do stuff like this.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89775 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:32 pm to
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It was sandbagged by people mad at Trump for doing the exact stupid bullshite referenced in OP.


Mccain literally dying of brain cancer, and fake republicans murkowski and collins sided with 48 Democrats to push it over the top

49 Republicans voted in favor of the skinny repeal - the exact compromise that Trump agreed to AFTER his full blown repeal initiative he campaigned on was rejected

bruh are you living in a different universe than the rest of us?
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8528 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:32 pm to
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look at the ACA repeal failure


Republicans weren't ready to govern when Trump won. They had NO plan because they didn't want to come off as being mean. Bottom line. Democrats don't have that kind of mental weakness. They pass what they want to pass and shove it down your throat.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:32 pm to
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It was sandbagged by people mad at Trump for doing the exact stupid bullshite referenced in OP.




I know you are not this dumb. McCain only gave the thumbs down to rub it in Trump's face. He would of voted no regardless because the insurance companies are raking it in under Obamacare and they lobbied McCain hard. McCain was just grandstanding to piss off Trump. If Trump was nice to McCain it would not have changed his vote.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21875 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:32 pm to
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It has nothing to do with Trump's skin depth. But Trump knows ONE thing and that's Democrats consolidate behind whoever their candidate is. Rogan just bringing up RFK on his show just gave 11 million people another option other than Trump. You don't see that with the Dems and that's why Republicans continue to lose.

I think you're wrong about this. We've seen enough of this from Trump to recognize it. And again, I don't give a shite about Rogan. I care about the senate races in Arizona and Montana, for example.

Trump takes shite too personally and turns on allies (or non-combatants) irrationally.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467010 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

Republicans weren't ready to govern when Trump won



Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467010 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

McCain only gave the thumbs down to rub it in Trump's face.

Why did McCain hate Trump?

Again,

quote:

people mad at Trump for doing the exact stupid bullshite referenced in OP.


quote:

If Trump was nice to McCain it would not have changed his vote.

Cope so that you don't have to admit that Trump couldn't repeal the ACA and that this behavior has a real cost.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:35 pm to
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I think you're wrong about this. We've seen enough of this from Trump to recognize it. And again, I don't give a shite about Rogan. I care about the senate races in Arizona and Montana, for example. Trump takes shite too personally and turns on allies (or non-combatants) irrationally.


Don’t vote for him then. You always talk about how you want a principled leader yet you cry and aren’t principled enough to say you won’t vote for him.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467010 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

I don't give a shite about Rogan. I care about the senate races in Arizona and Montana, for example.


quote:

Don’t vote for him then


There is that MAGA intelligence on display

Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9060 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:37 pm to
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Will pool ever take his hat off


He looks even goofier without it...

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Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:38 pm to
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Cope so that you don't have to admit that Trump couldn't repeal the ACA and that this behavior has a real cost.



It's not cope.

You have to realize that the way of Washington is through lobbyist if you don't have exceptional populous support (like Matt Gaetz, MTG, and maybe a few others). McCain was voting "no" no matter if Trump and McCain were arch enemies or BFFs.
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