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re: Trump Poised To Try To Remove Noncitizens From Census
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:45 am to Tunasntigers92
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:45 am to Tunasntigers92
Yes.
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:46 am to cajunangelle
What's the statute?
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:46 am to Night Vision
Yeah that should’ve been a day 1 deal
Rewarding states like Cali for illegals giving them more representation in the house is retarded
Rewarding states like Cali for illegals giving them more representation in the house is retarded
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:48 am to Night Vision
a fourth grader would understand why non-citizens should not be allowed to vote, and should not be counted in the census.
The DEM party is fundamentally flawed at the core!
The DEM party is fundamentally flawed at the core!
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:48 am to Night Vision
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Trump Poised To Try To Remove Noncitizens From Census
I don't care if they're counted, but they absolutely should not be used for Congressional seat apportionments or literally anything else that is determined by population size.
This post was edited on 6/27/25 at 8:49 am
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:56 am to GumboPot
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A political ground swell happens such that representatives get off their arse and finally replace "persons" with citizens.
I'm OK with counting them in the census = but they need to be identified as non-citizens
And they should NOT be allowed to vote - at least in any office federally. If a state wants to allow them to vote for local offices, I'd say that's dumb but as long as it only affects that state then ok. But the fact that California is a welcome mat for ILLEGAL ALIENS, they certainly should NOT be allowed to use that numerical data-point for ADDITIONAL federal influence. They already have at least 3 congressmen who are the direct result of ILLEGAL PRESENCE in the USA.
And ALSO - that ratio of citizens to non-citizens should be used to DECREASE any FEDERAL $$$ they receive. It is NOT FAIR that states who do things right should have to help support those states who PURPOSEFULLY use illegal aliens to bolster their power.
If it is a local matter to allow illegals to freely mingle, then let THEM finance all the bad shite that comes from their own poor decisions.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:58 am to Tunasntigers92
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Non-citizens were a part of the census?
15 or 20 seats' worth
probably 6 or 8 in CA alone
Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:00 am to Tunasntigers92
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Non-citizens were a part of the census?
Yes, it’s why democrats want all of the illegals. It gets them more members of congress. I thought this was common knowledge??
Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:00 am to Night Vision
This will nail sanctuary cities and states straight in the arse.
It will mean cuts to Federal funding. Let the liberal states and their citizens support the illegals.
It will mean cuts to Federal funding. Let the liberal states and their citizens support the illegals.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:03 am to BigBinBR
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northerners don't want them only counted as only 3/5 of a person like they insisted for blacks.
The 3/5 compromise was to limit the power of the slave holding states. That's not what the left wants, obviously.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:05 am to LemmyLives
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The 3/5 compromise was to limit the power of the slave holding states. That's not what the left wants, obviously.
I know. They didn't want blacks/slaves counted because their weren't citizens which would have gave the slave holding states more seats. I am just pointing out their hypocrisy
Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:18 am to Night Vision
Step 1 - This
Step 2 - end birthright citizenship
Step 3 - 10 year moratorium on immigration
Step 2 - end birthright citizenship
Step 3 - 10 year moratorium on immigration
Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:43 am to Tunasntigers92
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citizens were a part of the census?
My understanding is that California woukd lose lime 6 more seats. Will see if I can find the data.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:45 am to BHTiger
I'd love to find the angle to help citizens of counties with large illegal populations in the schools.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:48 am to Tunasntigers92
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Non-citizens were a part of the census?
Read the Constitution and get back with us on that.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:49 am to Tunasntigers92
Yes, they have been.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:50 am to oldskule
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a fourth grader would understand why non-citizens should not be allowed to vote, and should not be counted in the census.
When the Constitution first passed, could slaves vote?
Were they counted in the census?
Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:50 am to TBoy
Why not count international travelers at airports during the Census? I mean they are persons and in the country?
This post was edited on 6/27/25 at 9:52 am
Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:50 am to imjustafatkid
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I don't care if they're counted, but they absolutely should not be used for Congressional seat apportionments or literally anything else that is determined by population size.
Then we need to amend the Constitution I reckon
Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's going to be very difficult to argue the writers of the 14A didn't understand the difference in "citizen" and "person".
There is a strong legal argument that avoids this with what I'm going to call the "exclusion clause"
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Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.
The amendment already considered members of other nations (Indian Tribes) and determined to exclude them from the count. Extending this to residents here illegally is very logical.
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