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re: Trump played a video showing white African farmers burial sites to the SA president
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:11 pm to the808bass
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:11 pm to the808bass
I'm not sure he or the ANC or whomever feel shame over it. I'm not sure they care what others by and large feel as it comes to their relationship with White farmers....or whites overall .
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Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:13 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Trump just said that the video showed THOUSANDS of deaths? Where is he getting that number
This a fair question. South Africa much like America under Obama changed crime stats, rolling murder into one group, with farmers murdered being included in the overall statistics. Murders have also been purposely not reported by the government.
So at this point the most legitimate source are the local whites who keep count via white crosses and their own stats and the videos of blacks calling for the extermination of whites.
It's a genocide no matter how they spin it.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:18 pm to Riverside
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No, he took a different approach. He said the criminals are murdering everyone and they need technology to stop them.
He also compared stealing entire farms from the people is the same thing as the US government using eminent domain to place down a section of highway.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:23 pm to RohanGonzales
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What rate of murder is acceptable to you?
Zero. It's a tragic situation.
Genocide is a specific term with legal consequences in international law. I was just curious what the actual numbers are.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:24 pm to IvoryBillMatt
You need to slow down. You’re going to burn this account and then what do you do?
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:26 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Genocide is a specific term with legal consequences in international law.
Cool. How many crackers gotta die before it’s a genocide?
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:29 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Genocide is a specific term
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Genocide is defined as the intentional destruction, in whole or in part, of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. It is a crime recognized under international law. This destruction can be achieved through various means, including killing members of the group, causing serious bodily or mental harm, inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about the group's destruction, imposing measures to prevent births, or forcibly transferring children of the group
wow, sounds like a perfect description of what trump just outlined.
i guess you'll be apologizing now.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:29 pm to TigerRoyale
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This a fair question. South Africa much like America under Obama changed crime stats, rolling murder into one group, with farmers murdered being included in the overall statistics. Murders have also been purposely not reported by the government.
So at this point the most legitimate source are the local whites who keep count via white crosses and their own stats and the videos of blacks calling for the extermination of whites.
It's a genocide no matter how they spin it.
Thank you. That's all I was looking for.
FWIW, although it wasn't about murder, Retief Goosen's description of the struggles of his farming family members was the most compelling part.
The video itself would have been more compelling if Trump had provided some detail. Trump did a great job in asking why the people in the clip weren't arrested for inciting murder.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:35 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Why do you keep doubling down on stupid?
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:36 pm to TigerRoyale
I asked Grok for clarification.
Thanks Grok.
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The videos shown by President Donald Trump during his May 21, 2025, Oval Office meeting with South African President Cyril Ramaphosa are of questionable authenticity and have been widely disputed. Multiple sources report that Trump played a montage of clips to support his claims of "white genocide" or persecution of white Afrikaner farmers in South Africa. These claims have been repeatedly debunked by South African officials, experts, and data, with no credible evidence supporting the narrative of targeted racial violence against white farmers.
Thanks Grok.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:36 pm to hawgfaninc
Amazing
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:38 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
If you are a white republican Christian married American citizen, those "news" networks hate you. They wouldn't care if crosses lined a street in America representing each of us, hell, they probably prefer it.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:40 pm to redneck hippie
You racist sure are big mad that 50 white people got refugee status after not saying anything when 21 million people poured across our border without vetting.
ETA- I also find it funny that you are too stupid to form your own opinion without AI. What a pathetic groomer
ETA- I also find it funny that you are too stupid to form your own opinion without AI. What a pathetic groomer
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:40 pm to Bourre
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You racist sure are big mad that 50 white people got refugee status after not saying anything when 21 million people poured across our border without vetting
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:41 pm to CAD703X
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wow, sounds like a perfect description of what trump just outlined.
i guess you'll be apologizing now.
Why would I be apologizing??? I never said it was NOT genocide. Trump outlined some of that, but he never gave any numbers except "THOUSANDS of recent deaths."
Tiger Royale provided a rational explanation about why exact numbers might be hard to fix.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:42 pm to hawgfaninc
looks like trump has brought that crazy uncle imploring you to look at this tweet or watch an hour and a half youtube to learn (((the truth))) to international relations
sad!
sad!
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:44 pm to KiwiHead
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I'm not sure he or the ANC or whomever feel shame over it. I'm not sure they care what others by and large feel as it comes to their relationship with White farmers....or whites overall .
You understand what he was there for, don't you?
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:45 pm to beaux duke
Clearly state that white farmers and their families aren’t being murdered in South Africa.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:47 pm to Bourre
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You racist sure are big mad that 50 white people got refugee status after not saying anything when 21 million people poured across our border without vetting.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:47 pm to CAD703X
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Genocide is defined as the intentional destruction, in whole or in part, of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.
In deciding whether an ethnic group was being destroyed "in whole or in part," wouldn't you need to know SOME numbers?
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