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re: Trump: Payments to silence women were a ‘simple private transaction
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:21 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:21 pm to NC_Tigah
Extortion. why dosent anyone ever mention that stormy used extortion to get money then broke the silence agreement as well as this was long before he ran for office.
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:23 pm to brian_wilson
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Yeah, there are a myriad of other things that could pose problems - taxes, bank fraud, wire fraud, and a few other things. Also, there could be crimes that are state level charges.
I’d love to hear this. Don’t you see how desperate y’all are to find something.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:39 pm to BBONDS25
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I’d love to hear this.
I think you will need to wait for the SDNY, to file charges, if they do.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:43 pm to brian_wilson
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I think you will need to wait for the SDNY, to file charges, if they do.
So you have no basis for your assertion that there could be bank fraud wire fraud and state level charges? Why would you make such a statement if you have zero basis? If you have a basis....fill us in.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:43 pm to brian_wilson
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, if they do.
muh finance laws Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:59 pm to SDVTiger
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Cant wait for the low iq crowd to try and spin this to a felony
The Justice Department, led by Trump appointees, has already "spun it" into a felony.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:03 pm to clooneyisgod
Are you not aware of the audio tape Cohen surreptitiously took when Trump specifically states that if there is any payment it must be “on the up and up”? Are you aware intent is an element of the alleged crime? Are you aware that if trump entered into similar NDAs prior to becoming a candidate that would be a defense to the allleged crime? Are you aware the alleged violation is that Cohen made a contribution above the limit. That “contribution” was
Reimbursed, yet the SDNY relies on that reimbursement as evidence of wrongdoing? It’s circular and a bootstrap.
You take a statement made by someone the investigators claimed lied to them at every step as truth and satisfaction of required elements by someone else despite all of the evidence to the contrary? That is silly.
Reimbursed, yet the SDNY relies on that reimbursement as evidence of wrongdoing? It’s circular and a bootstrap.
You take a statement made by someone the investigators claimed lied to them at every step as truth and satisfaction of required elements by someone else despite all of the evidence to the contrary? That is silly.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:05 pm to AggieHank86
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When done in order to potentially influence an election, the issue becomes cloudier.
all money spent in an election is meant to influence the election you fricking imbecile.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:05 pm to BBONDS25
interpreting a plea in federal court as having precedential value is a fool' errand
Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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interpreting a plea in federal court as having precedential value is a fool' errand
Exactly.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:07 pm to AggieHank86
Explain this theory to me. What other purpose would there be to such payoffs? Under the same logic, if Trump buys a nice suit, is that a campaign finance violation. Is he not trying to influence the electorate by looking his best?
Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:08 pm to oogabooga68
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Jesus Christ, everything a candidate does is to influence an election...what the frick is wrong with you Lefties?
This is a pretty dumb argument. The fact that everything they do can influence an election is why disclosure and transparency are required under the law.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:09 pm to clooneyisgod
Anybody doing so should be shite canned.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:09 pm to clooneyisgod
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The fact that everything they do can influence an election is why disclosure and transparency are required under the law.
Except you can use UNLIMITED PERSONAL FUNDS. unlimited.
No violation you trash
Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:11 pm to clooneyisgod
So that's what we have laws and statutes are for. They tell us What should and should not be disclosed. Please point me to the applicable statutory requirement in this case.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:11 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Why aren’t the two women being brought up on blackmail charges?
Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:15 pm to CptBengal
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Except you can use UNLIMITED PERSONAL FUNDS. unlimited.
No violation you trash
You seem reasonable.
But Trump didn't pay it. Cohen did subject to a reimbursement from Trump right? Trump disclosed the liability to Cohen after the election.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:16 pm to BBONDS25
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So you have no basis for your assertion that there could be bank fraud wire fraud and state level charges?
Well I Am not privy to all the evidence.
If you can't see how having an employee of your company take a heloc to pay a campaign contribution, then bill the company for it could result in these charges, there is nothing I can say to convince you.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:30 pm to hawkeye007
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wait i thought Trump said that he didn't have affairs with these women? did i miss him actually telling the truth?
So you obviously never seen an NDA before. Done a couple for Med-mal lawsuits. It doesn’t admit any wrong doing. Just here is your check (cheaper than going to court) to make this go away and you can’t say shite to anyone....all on paper!
Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:37 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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So you obviously never seen an NDA before. Done a couple for Med-mal lawsuits. It doesn’t admit any wrong doing. Just here is your check (cheaper than going to court) to make this go away and you can’t say shite to anyone....all on paper!
Didn't he deny it publically?
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