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re: Trump orders up military invasion plans for Greenland right before NATO summit
Posted on 1/11/26 at 9:33 am to uziyourillusion
Posted on 1/11/26 at 9:33 am to uziyourillusion
This is from Rubios confirmation hearing. TLDR i know but terms got everything you need to know
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think frankly, I know you didn't ask me this question, but it's one I welcome the ability to talk about, and similar to the discussion with Greenland, putting aside all the things that are going on in the media. I think we need to understand that Greenland is strategically important to the United States and to the West for a very long time. In fact, in 1941, at the outbreak of World War II, the United States was signed up as a protector even though Denmark had been occupied. I think Harry Truman tried to buy Denmark. Harry Truman had made an effort to try to buy it for $100 million. He was rebuffed. And then the U.S. has maintained through the mutual defense agreement there the opportunity to have military bases, and it had them for a while. Why?
The reason why is because of what's located geographically. Yes, the access to the minerals on Greenland are critically important, but as more navigable space is opening up in the Arctic, particularly this northern passage that goes from Russia to Asia and could cut transit times by as much as 40%, the Arctic is going to become incredibly critical, and so we have to have a presence there. We have to have a presence there, not just saying, okay, we have a base, we have 200 people, or we have a flag flying. We have to have the ability, for example, to have the ships that can navigate on the naval level and keep those shipping lanes open if, in fact, they're being threatened. We have to have partners along the Arctic region that will join us in ensuring that the Arctic region is open for free and flow of navigation as these passages open up, because global trade is in many ways going to be infused by it.
We have positions within the State Department that I think in the past have been diminished or people just haven't paid a lot of attention to, and I just had this conversation the other day with Senator Murkowski that all of a sudden I think people are interested in serving in Arctic affairs and in Arctic posts because this issue of Greenland has opened our eyes to the broader geographic importance of the Arctic region, which for long has been a curiosity or something people have not talked about, but I think now we have the opportunity to see it for what it is. And that is, if not the most important, one of the most critical parts of the world over the next to 100 years will be whether there's going to be freedom of navigation in the Arctic and what that will mean for global trade and commerce. Thank you.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 9:35 am to The1TrueTiger
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I know it won't matter to the Trump cultists, but intimidating a country into selling land is illegal.
Really? Who enforces that?
Posted on 1/11/26 at 10:50 am to Nosevens
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what happens if say Chinese or Russian takes over in the night with a small force
You people can't be fricking serious with this horseshite.
What happens would be Article 5 would be invoked and the US would show up with enough power to take out any "small force" sent in the middle of the night by China or Russia.
The US does NOT need to own Greenland for any reasons, including the security of the US, Denmark or even Greenland itself. The only threat to Greenland over the past 80 years has been us, now.
This is all about Trump's ego and has nothing to do with security, mineral resources or alliances. He wants it because he wants it.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 11:54 am to 10thyrsr
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You are blaming Trump for the failure of his party to codify the amazing things he has done? You should direct your hate toward the legislature rather than the executive. They refuse to implement his great policies!
I'm not blaming anything—
You guys keep claiming he is the greatest president of all time—I'm simply asking: what has he done to earn that title? Owning Iibs on Truth Social can't be his defining legacy.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:03 pm to MrLSU
This reminds me of when a thug asks to hold a dollar.
Hint: They are robbing you.
Hint: They are robbing you.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:24 pm to Harry Boutte
Agreed, America doesn’t need to own. Greenland can be their own and have the right for their own decisions which they don’t have now. But what Trump is encouraging is the safety under our net which outside America the rest of nato is to broke, incapable of providing themselves, the reason they have American troops protecting them now
Posted on 1/11/26 at 5:27 pm to The_Duke
Shutting down the border. If you don’t think that’s America changing, whatever.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:48 am to Nosevens
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the safety under our net which outside America the rest of nato is to broke, incapable of providing themselves
Safety from whom?
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the reason they have American troops protecting them now
Protecting them from whom?
That's the thing about fear mongering, it makes people paranoid about threats that don't even exist.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 10:19 am to Harry Boutte
So you wait for a threat to become fact or do you prepare for in advance ? Is there any question of countries intent on controlling the passage ways of vital lanes? Has it not been said aloud by Russia and China the need to gain advantages over America?
Posted on 1/13/26 at 10:31 am to MrLSU
peace thru strength, works every time
Posted on 1/13/26 at 10:47 am to MrLSU
Raws Alert sounds like a very reputable news organization.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 10:47 am to Nosevens
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So you wait for a threat to become fact or do you prepare for in advance ?
No, but I would wait for some sign of a credible threat.
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Is there any question of countries intent on controlling the passage ways of vital lanes?
You're starting to look hysterical.
International law dictates what are and what aren't international waters. If there's any question, the US Navy shows up and straightens it out.
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Has it not been said aloud by Russia and China the need to gain advantages over America?
So what? That doesn't mean we must seize Greenland. Russia can't even topple a corrupt backwards country right next door to them, and China can't even take Taiwan right next to them, why are you so scared of them projecting power elsewhere? Maybe if we don't want China to "gain advantages" over is, we need to stop trading with them and sending them billions of dollars every year for their cheap shite.
Is China a threat to our national security, or are they one of our biggest trading partners?
What you fail to mention is that the US has a lack of ice-breaker ships capable of transiting the Arctic Ocean. If we want to increase our influence in the Arctic, we need to build more ice-breakers, we don't need to seize Greenland. Luckily, we've recently entered a deal with one of our closest allies in launching just such ships...
A Canadian engineering firm will provide the designs for the U.S. Coast Guard’s fleet of six new icebreakers under an agreement between the United States, Finland and Canada, the company announced Jan. 7.
Contracts were awarded to Rauma Marine Constructions Oy of Rauma, Finland, and Bollinger Shipyards Lockport, L.L.C. of Lockport, Louisiana. Rauma will build two of the vessels in Finland.
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This is the way, not belligerence.
Trump told us why he wants to seize Greenland, it's because 'ownership' is important to HIM personally, it's not because it's necessary for our national security.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 10:58 am to MrLSU
Why do we need SpecOps? The place is huge and only has 57,000 people. Just land where you want and do what you want. Nobody is going to stop them.
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