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re: Trump orders release of Epstein documents

Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:23 pm to
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78348 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:23 pm to
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Well here we go..
It's likely not going to be much.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36597 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:23 pm to
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They have been playing everyone


Especially their own who has been yelling for a week to shut up about it
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
15185 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:23 pm to
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They have been playing everyone


I had a little spark of hope this may be so... but was thrown off by the way it was played. I've never been more pleased to be wrong in my doubts.
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
3068 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:24 pm to
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Why make your FBI and DOJ look like retards for two weeks? What was the point of the memo that it's a nothingburger?
Classic case of Trump creating a problem and then celebrating the “fix” of the problem he created. His cult eats it up.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35880 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:24 pm to
Because grand jury testimony and evidence is generally sealed.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
15185 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:25 pm to
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If the judge refuses and it’s done anyway, that would be a violation of federal criminal law.


Is there any work around? I imagine there are a great many judges that wouldn't be eager to release this mess.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92970 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:25 pm to
We win

Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39889 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:25 pm to
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I've never been more pleased to be wrong in my doubts.


Same
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38025 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:25 pm to
He said the files were a hoax. Which is it?
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8608 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:25 pm to
Adam, Trump is releasing Grand Jury testimony. It’s a transcript of people talking. It’s where the government presents its evidence of criminality and a group of people decide if there is probable cause to indict a person. There’s nothing to “alter,” other than redacting victim information.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78348 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:26 pm to
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So are the files altered or not?
It will never be enough for some of you.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35176 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:26 pm to
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Classic case of Trump creating a problem and then celebrating the “fix” of the problem he created. His cult eats it up.

Fussing and whining whether he releases information or not….who didn’t see that coming!
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
30691 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:26 pm to
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The simpletons who are so invested in this will never be satisfied.


And the Trump supporters who would jump off a bridge if he asked them to are fricking morons.

You included.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35176 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:27 pm to
I guess the district court level could perhaps be appealed on up the ladder, but I’m not 100% sure about that. But that would be the only work around I could think of
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
72094 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:28 pm to
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Are they altered or not?

They're supposed to be. That's what we have been told.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162989 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:28 pm to
There are others like Dersh that will be named. Dersh is sick of defending... Bill Richardson (D) is dead. Imagine Trumps meeting w/ King Charles in the UK in Sept. when Prince Andrews name is mentioned after Virginia ran into a bus and her husband beat her.

The former PM of Israel.

WJC probably begged Trump to stop it so he could die with a good name.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55426 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:29 pm to
Sure there was. Its called demand. You even have democrats demanding it be released.


It doesn't look like retribution. Its defense. "You left me no choice"


Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
9855 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:30 pm to
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Why make your FBI and DOJ look like retards for two weeks?

“Tin foil hat”
He needed Dems to come out and say they wanted the records released and full transparency, so that meant telling Patel and Bondi something different.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
26553 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:30 pm to
Hey, didn't he do this like the first week of after inauguration?? So what happened.

Downs doesn't matter. Anything pertinent will either be redacted or was burned long long ago.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92970 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:31 pm to
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I guess the district court level could perhaps be appealed on up the ladder, but I’m not 100% sure about that. But that would be the only work around I could think of


Will be interesting when:

The evidence presented to the GJ and also in GM’s trial doesn’t reconcile properly to what the FBI has in their possession.

This very well could’ve been a set up from the get go

That Orange bastard came through
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