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re: Trump orders creation of US sovereign wealth fund, says it could own part of TikTok
Posted on 2/3/25 at 2:41 pm to finchmeister08
Posted on 2/3/25 at 2:41 pm to finchmeister08
No
Posted on 2/3/25 at 2:41 pm to finchmeister08
So the government wants to influence the flow of information through a social media app.......what could go wrong.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 2:43 pm to Penrod
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Any excess dollars should retire debt...
100%!!!

Posted on 2/3/25 at 2:44 pm to finchmeister08
We're quickly moving to Russian and Chinese versions of democracy and it sucks....
Posted on 2/3/25 at 2:49 pm to finchmeister08
My one hope is the investments are limited to international companies only. Not a fan of the government having ownership of domestic industries or companies.
It would kind of be like socialism for the rest of the world (which they should love), and investment club for Americans.
It would kind of be like socialism for the rest of the world (which they should love), and investment club for Americans.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 2:53 pm to Diego Ricardo
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I think majority state ownership of corporations in critical industries is exactly how you put a thumb on the scale in favor of the state's interests over the interests of the private shareholder's need for quarterly growth
supporting socialism to own the libs
Posted on 2/3/25 at 3:05 pm to LSURussian
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LSURussian
Imagine being such a small weak man that you would still have TDS even today
Posted on 2/3/25 at 3:05 pm to Dire Wolf
It's like telling liberals and progressives that they haven't gone far enough.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 3:07 pm to scottydoesntknow
quote:Imagine you being so stupid that you don't know I voted for Trump.
Imagine being such a small weak man that you would still have TDS even today

Posted on 2/3/25 at 3:08 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I'm absolutely OK with taxpayers having passive upside.
That's not where it stops.
Government is like a biological organism in that its primary drive is to live and grow. For government, growth = increasing control. As such, allowing the federal government to start owning parts of companies would be the very first step in nationalization.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 3:08 pm to LSURussian
At this point one could argue social media needs a public first amendment option. A public highway of personal opinion, if you will.
I just don't think it should be tiktok.
I just don't think it should be tiktok.
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 2/3/25 at 3:10 pm to LSURussian
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Imagine you being so stupid that you don't know I voted for Trump.
Doubtful, regardless, doesnt change your TDS garbage opinions
Posted on 2/3/25 at 3:11 pm to Bard
What's it called when the US owns a stake in all major corporations outside of the US?
I could see this being an effective carrot and stick if used properly. Option 1 is let the USSWF own part of your business to serve the American economy, or Option 2 is move your shite here and enjoy your private ownership.
I could see this being an effective carrot and stick if used properly. Option 1 is let the USSWF own part of your business to serve the American economy, or Option 2 is move your shite here and enjoy your private ownership.
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 2/3/25 at 3:12 pm to BayouBlitz
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Ah, socialism. Founding Fathers rolling in their graves.
Nah The US government has been involved in this essentially since its founding. Public/private partnerships helped build the banking system, railroads and canals.
During WWII, the government did the same.
The government has long been in the business of lending to various businesses/endeavors. If that's going to continue (which I'm sure it will), there should absolutely be a place for the taxpayers underwriting the loans to get to participate somehow in the upside. Why should Tesla have been entitled to such cheap loan funds? Even just 10-20% warrant coverage would not have even been noticed by shareholders, but would have been noticed by taxpayers.
Ditto TikTok. I don't think 50% is necessarily the right number, but the fedgov has created the opportunity for domestic investors by outlawing foreign ownership.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 3:13 pm to finchmeister08
I voted for Trump but I am like many… I don’t think the government should be I. The business of owning stock or enterprises…but I’m not too smart on how this could negatively affect us with the wrong folks in power. I mean, look at social security and how that’s been abused…
Posted on 2/3/25 at 3:14 pm to finchmeister08
This is a terrible idea. No matter how this thing starts, it will inevitably end up like the worst run public pension fund in the US, like the Illinois Teachers Pension Fund, but on steroids. It will be staffed with DEI asset managers and will end up being a slush fund for ridiculous projects. I can't believe Trump supports this. Also, countries with sovereign wealth funds typically run a budget surplus.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 3:14 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:Is not owning
lending
Posted on 2/3/25 at 3:15 pm to coolpapaboze
Maybe he could sunset it to end in October 2028. Liquidate it at the end of his term and distribute the proceeds to the American taxpayer.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 3:21 pm to Dire Wolf
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supporting socialism to own the libs
Global capitalism - that is never going away no matter how many trade restrictions we can enact - with lassiez faire economics is a recipe for the complete desolation of the state. Corporations will do whatever increases shareholder value. They do not care about a state or people, only profit. There are only two ways for a state to really bind a corporation to the state and it is either by contracts or investment. At least investment means the state gets the dividends of the profits from the enterprise. Perhaps that is a way to eliminate taxes while keeping a similar level of infrastructure and social services?
China emerging from the rot of the late Qing Dynasty, World Wars, and revolutions has changed the game and they aren't playing by Friedman playbook. Refusing to realize this is like Dabo Swinney ending his emerging dynasty due to ideological commitments against direct player compensation.
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 2/3/25 at 3:23 pm to Diego Ricardo
Reagan, Bush(both) led us into deficits.
This is a great analogy of what happened. Regan built up a huge deficit but no one likes to talk about that
This is a great analogy of what happened. Regan built up a huge deficit but no one likes to talk about that
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