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re: Trump: No More Selling Bombardier In The United States

Posted on 9/7/26 at 9:01 pm to
Posted by bamalee
Member since Jan 2009
1362 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 9:01 pm to
Fair Trade not free trade, should have always been our motto, free trade means america last, IMO. Yes, cheaper products but lost jobs for the trade off, screw that.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13891 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 9:02 pm to
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Let the market speak and be done with it.

I suppose if both sides were doing this it would work...but that's not the case and hasn't been for a long time.

You keep arguing from only the American perspective but "For me this is nothing to do with Canada specifically and everything to do with consumer choice, free enterprise" doesn't work.

Canada has been screwing us for a long time. 1,000 Bombadier employees will have temporary setbacks while 10's of thousands of Americans get screwed over daily.

This is a negotiating tool...that is all.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10688 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 9:34 pm to
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Canada has been screwing us for a long time.


Background info for you: I worked for one of, if not the largest, Canadian companies for 15 years. I was part of a team that fed half of the freaking country all of its produce intake. I didn't bend the knee to their BS and lost my job because of it along with 8 other people that were very much like family. I'm not a fan of Canada even though I shouldn't hold a grudge. We can point to dairy for an example of their screwing us over. Yes, they're most definitely protectionist and it costs their consumers money to do it. No competition leads to a localized monopoly and higher costs, fewer consumer options and more. Tump's pronouncement, if it were to become reality, is taking us in that same direction. That's a negative.

Here's some info on Bombardier: They have approximately 17,100 employees spread out across the globe and a ton of US based facilities. Like I said earlier, he's targeting those facilities, communities and families by threatening their employer no matter how people may like to spin this. He clearly put Bombardier in the crosshairs. How else do you interpret this if you're on their payroll? It's your butt on the line when you've done nothing wrong other than be in the employ of an organization Trump is targeting. Lastly, they employ people in all but 5 of the lower 48 states.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
51935 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 9:57 pm to
Well that impacts no one on the rant
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
64394 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 10:53 pm to
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Fair Trade not free trade, should have always been our motto,
I'm old enough to remember when we mocked democrats for their incessant focus on "fairness". Is it "fair" we have the worlds strongest currency that allows to buy everything overseas at a massive discount?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
64394 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 10:54 pm to
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Canada has been screwing us for a long time
Outside of oil, we have a trade surplus with them. .
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38867 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 12:20 am to
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At what point does any president telling us what we can or cannot purchase become an issue? The pendulum swing will be a sight to behold and it will suck.


Let the market speak and be done with it.
The interesting question is what a “pendulum swing” would actually mean here. A strong federal hand directing the market obviously conflicts with the free-market principles traditionally associated with American conservatism.

Does a backlash against Trump push Democrats toward defending free markets, further blurring or even reversing the parties’ economic positions? Or does the left embrace the expanded intervention (since it is in agreement with their wheelhouse), swinging the pendulum further in the same direction but redirecting it towards leftist priorities, putting us on a path toward an official command economy that neither party even pretends to oppose?

Crazy days, folks.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
21547 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 4:49 am to
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Never thought I’d see the day so called conservatives would cheer for this. What happened to free market capitalism?


Cause fair trade does not mean free trade, study more post less
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
18990 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 4:52 am to
good.... frick canada, bunch of commies who speak french
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
5175 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 5:10 am to
quote:

Canada resumed its Defence Coordination Dialogue with China on September 4, 2026,

China is getting a pig in a poke.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
5399 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 5:30 am to
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"The presence of Bombardier in Wichita supports a local workforce of more than a thousand employees, who contribute their talent and expertise to our nation’s defense and aerospace capabilities.


I bet the economic mensas on page 1-2 of this post did not know this. Nor did they know that Bombadier employs roughly 3,500 Americans in 20 different states spending roughly $2.5 billion on American parts and supplies.



This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 5:39 am
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
39199 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 6:28 am to
So you are comfortable with affecting the jobs of the thousands of indirect jobs for the US based suppliers of Bombardier? Not to mention the 3500 US direct jobs in places like Kansas and Texas?
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
11830 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 6:38 am to

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It’s not really that hefty. Maybe like 20 airplanes max. Probably less.


I guess $5.8 Billion in annual revenue doesn’t go as far as it once did …..

Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
39199 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 6:44 am to
OK, but that's not the case regarding Canada. Canadian firms like Bombardier employ tens of thousands US employees throughout the country .

Would you rather all those jobs be in Winnipeg or Regina, because in effect that is what you are saying.

Wah, it's not fair that a Canadian company manufactures stuff and employs machinists and engineers in the US......and Canada in a cost effective manner that benefits both sides.

Where did you learn economics and trade? That University of American Samoa diploma is looking pretty handy......maybe should have gone to McGill or University of Toronto at the very least.
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 6:45 am
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17410 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 6:48 am to
What American banks have been blocked?
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
11830 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 6:55 am to

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What American banks have been blocked?


All of them ….I believe
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 7:01 am
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17410 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 7:09 am to
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All of them ….I believe



That would be a massive hit to the likes of JP Morgan, Bank of America, capital one and Citibank. They have substantial banking operations there
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 7:10 am
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
3559 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 7:30 am to
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Bombardier is Gulfstream’s main competitor and Canada is refusing to certify the Gulfstream GVIII like a bunch of bitches. This is a solid move by Trump


CNBC tried to throw Trump under the bus on this last week when they were interviewing Biden’s ambassador to Canada, David Cohen. Cohen (an old school dem who actually helped fix Philadelphia 30 years ago), told CNBC that Canada was blocking Gulfstream. The host backpedaled quickly.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
11830 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 7:37 am to
You’re trying to pick fly shyte out of the pepper……

Canada made the US-Canada trade discussions Political going back to Trump’s first term. The bigger picture is the trade agreement between the two countries. You know, the trade agreement that Trudeau and Freedland refused to participate in discussing in 2017?

Number of trade agreements inked:
Obama = 3
Biden = 0
Trump = 21 and counting

Out of all of these trade agreements, nobody was offered a better trade deal than Canada. No-bahhh-dee!

As far back as 2016, Trump made it crystal clear that the US was moving from a trilateral trade policy (w Mexico and Canada) to separate unilateral agreements…… why? …. because the Mexican and Canadian economies are radically different.

Canada built an economy based on China’s need to circumvent US trade regulations, and they exploited NAFTA and USMCA to do it, all while pursuing the CCP/WEF/EU agenda behind the scenes. Canada has nobody to blame but themselves.

Canada’s currency is collapsing, …… 42,000 jobs lost last month alone and they are hopelessly married to the mob of Greenies, who long for a nationless, borderless world powered by windmills, solar panels and hot air, ……. which Ottawa has in abundance.

This is the root issue. Canada’s pursuit of green initiatives has crippled their ability to grow their economy ….. now they are trapped.

You can easily see the divergence in Per Capita GDP ….. up until 2015 Canada’s pc gdp was tracking steady with the US. Then Trudeau’s climate change green policies were implemented, causing an immediate and sustained divergence from the trend. Stupid.

quote:

Mark Carney has tariffed $50 billion in U.S. exports. There are one thousand Billions in a Trillion.

The U.S. economy is 32 Trillion. Put another way, the U.S. economy is thirty-two thousand billions, and Mark Carney has tariffed 50 of them.

Elbows up, I guess.






Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
11830 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 7:42 am to
Any foreign bank wishing to operate in Canada must establish a separate Canadian subsidiary and keep capital within the country. These rules create a high bar for entry.
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