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Posted on 10/4/25 at 6:58 am to Taxing Authority
quote:Negative.
China is buying from Argentina for lower prices
US soybeans are approximately 20% less expensive than Argentinian soybeans per bushel. However, US soybeans are more expensive for the Chinese consumer. The difference is the 35% Chinese tariffs which are being assigned to US soybeans. Those are retaliatory. The intent is leverage. You'd like to cede the Chinese that leverage. I wouldn't.
Posted on 10/4/25 at 8:17 am to 10thyrsr
So we bail out Argentina.
We bail out farmers in US
China gets a deal from Argentina on soybeans.
US pays twice. Gets nothing for our trouble.
Milei wins twice.
Xi wins twice....gets soybeans and sticks it to US farmers.
Where is the win, here?
We bail out farmers in US
China gets a deal from Argentina on soybeans.
US pays twice. Gets nothing for our trouble.
Milei wins twice.
Xi wins twice....gets soybeans and sticks it to US farmers.
Where is the win, here?
Posted on 10/4/25 at 8:20 am to loogaroo
Reward your friends and punish your enemies
This is what politics is all about and always has been
The dorky bow tie libertarians can sit this one out. There is a reason those dumbasses haven’t ever accomplished anything
This is what politics is all about and always has been
The dorky bow tie libertarians can sit this one out. There is a reason those dumbasses haven’t ever accomplished anything
Posted on 10/4/25 at 8:21 am to burger bearcat
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The dorky bow tie libertarians can sit this one out. There is a reason those dumbasses haven’t ever accomplished anything
At least promise to never say that you're against socialism and admit that Trump has a lot of leftist economic policies
Posted on 10/4/25 at 8:22 am to burger bearcat
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Reward your friends and punish your enemies
By embracing socialism? JFC.
Posted on 10/4/25 at 8:22 am to burger bearcat
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Reward your friends and punish your enemies
Farmers will vote for whoever gives them the most welfare.
Populism sucks.
Posted on 10/4/25 at 10:28 am to NC_Tigah
quote:US prices are cheaper because there is oversupply, because of a decreased demand.
US soybeans are approximately 20% less expensive than Argentinian soybeans per bushel. However, US soybeans are more expensive for the Chinese consumer. The difference is the 35% Chinese tariffs which are being assigned to US soybeans. Those are retaliatory. The intent is leverage.
quote:What leverage? Why isn't China growing their own soybeans?
You'd like to cede the Chinese that leverage. I wouldn't.
Posted on 10/4/25 at 12:26 pm to NC_Tigah
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quote:Cost of production is elephant in the roomDetail that.
Interests rates, equipment, labor, seed, chemical and just about everything associated with production is way more expensive.
This post was edited on 10/4/25 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 10/4/25 at 12:29 pm to GoblinGuide
I keep telling y'all Navarro is going to be a disaster for Trump.
He is a friggin academic and academics don't exist in reality. Every one of their theories works good on paper and its everyone else's fault when they don't work.
This is the dude who said Elon didn't build anything. Spoken like a true egghead.
He is a friggin academic and academics don't exist in reality. Every one of their theories works good on paper and its everyone else's fault when they don't work.
This is the dude who said Elon didn't build anything. Spoken like a true egghead.
Posted on 10/4/25 at 12:30 pm to SWLA92
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The equipment and chemical companies are the ones that will reap the benefits of the bailouts.
100%
Cane farmers are about the only ones not bitching right now.
Posted on 10/4/25 at 12:42 pm to lowhound
Agree, our farmers feed more people than anyone else in the world. The government caused this mess, so it is only right that they fix it.
Posted on 10/4/25 at 12:46 pm to KiwiHead
yall got him now literally Hilter lmao 
Posted on 10/4/25 at 12:47 pm to loogaroo
I’ve always been fascinated with the Cane industry. They are so united and together. They are the only ones in the Ag industry that don’t screw each other and they always get the most for their product. It’s no coincidence why they do. When you stick together it’s always better.
Posted on 10/4/25 at 1:36 pm to SWLA92
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They are the only ones in the Ag industry that don’t screw each other
The ones I know are all trying to buy more land, and it’s competitive to put it mildly.
Posted on 10/4/25 at 1:59 pm to Taxing Authority
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US prices are cheaper because there is oversupply, because of a decreased demand.
quote:Pressuring US soybean farmers, who in turn would pressure the Trump Admin to give in to China. Soybeans are the single largest Chinese imported item from the US. Leveraging that is their best shot at reversing US tariff policy. Trump's subsidies removes that leverage.
What leverage?
Posted on 10/4/25 at 3:27 pm to Big Scrub TX
Bunch of globalists moving the goal posts in here because they aren’t getting their Great Depression.
Posted on 10/4/25 at 3:32 pm to NC_Tigah
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Trump's subsidies removes that leverage.
That’s why I haven’t bitched too much about this. Sort of a necessary evil to equalize the playing field, but Brazil is increasing acreage at breakneck speed. I don’t know how this plays out.
Posted on 10/4/25 at 3:40 pm to KiwiHead
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So he bought them.
Is buying them. He doesn't want to lose a midwest farming state for 2026. Iowa was a swing state.
Posted on 10/4/25 at 3:46 pm to NC_Tigah
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Leveraging that is their best shot at reversing US tariff policy. Trump's subsidies removes that leverage.
I thought we were using tariffs for better trade deals because of all of our leverage?
Now we have to spend billions on top of the economic losses (short term for now) to get leverage? What happened to our leverage?
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