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re: Trump is signing an executive order Thursday directing the closure of the Department of Ed
Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:24 pm to lake chuck fan
Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:24 pm to lake chuck fan
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Good. Let the states decide how to use its tax dollars for education
That’s right. Give us back the Federal education funds going to local school districts. Total waste of money.
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:26 pm to terd ferguson
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Let them pay back their loans like everyone else.
They entered into a program created via Congressional statute, some have relied upon it for 9+ years.
You can't just pull the rug out at the 11th hour...especially via EO.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:39 pm to BCreed1
Judge Moontamontooki of the United States District Court of American Samoa to, sua sponte, issue injunction stopping this “unconstitutional” action.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:40 pm to IT_Dawg
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Can another future President just EO it back into existence? It needs to be codified somehow by Congress.
He needs Congress to get rid of the Department too, which, unfortunately, won’t pass
He can skeletonize it. Bare bones staff/operation. Solely to be in compliance with Congressional mandates.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
You should probably file a lawsuit against him
Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:42 pm to High C
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Public school teacher here yelling, “Hell yeah!”
Same here, but nothing will change until the get rid of IDEA, NVLB, and ESSA.
I will enjoy the State Dept of Ed have to actually do their jobs and not have the fed to blame for bullshite!
Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You can't just pull the rug out at the 11th hour...especially via EO.
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:50 pm to BCreed1
Eh, have DOE head submit a budget that’s 50% less this year, which is a 41 billion savings.
50% less the next year, down to 20 billion
90% less the next, down to 2 billion
Then you eliminate a very minor department. I get (and love) the idea of wiping it out immediately, but my way eliminates a lot of the lawfare.
50% less the next year, down to 20 billion
90% less the next, down to 2 billion
Then you eliminate a very minor department. I get (and love) the idea of wiping it out immediately, but my way eliminates a lot of the lawfare.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:03 pm to BCreed1
Oh lord, that odious teachers union president is really going to shriek now. 
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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PSLF bigly and making lots of people mad
Brother, we are all mad we get to pay loans back and some people get theirs forgiven.
They are welcome in the club of paying your debt.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:37 pm to CoachChappy
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Same here, but nothing will change until the get rid of IDEA, NVLB, and ESSA.
IDEA is not going away. 100s and 100s of case law back it up.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:41 pm to BCreed1
Good idea to stop what doesn't work.....common sense!
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:47 pm to llfshoals
quote:Doesn't work that way. Congress appropriate the money. And since we're going to get another endless string of CRs, no one is cutting DOE's budget.
Eh, have DOE head submit a budget that’s 50% less this year, which is a 41 billion savings.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:49 pm to BCreed1
good. maybe the damn NEA that is directly across the street from the hotel I stay at in DC will burn to the ground. Still got huge BLM and rainbow flag stickers all over the first floor windows. Look it up on google maps street view
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This is screwing up PSLF bigly and making lots of people mad.
Treasury will handle it, Pro.
Why is the Department of Education financing loans and administering the repayments and forgiveness anyway? Shouldn’t that fall to Treasury?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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They entered into a program created via Congressional statute, some have relied upon it for 9+ years.
I would think there would be provisions.
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You can't just pull the rug out at the 11th hour...especially via EO.
That’s what is cool. You can.
I thought you were for less government?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:14 pm to bluestem75
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Why is the Department of Education financing loans and administering the repayments and forgiveness anyway? Shouldn’t that fall to Treasury?
Ask Congress, who passed the statute (under a Republican admin)
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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They entered into a program created via Congressional statute, some have relied upon it for 9+ years. You can't just pull the rug out at the 11th hour...especially via EO.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:18 pm to Warboo
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I thought you were for less government?
As I said, this is Congress's job to do this (and deal with how they will handle funding the programs for the legacy recipients over time)
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That’s what is cool. You can.
I imagine courts would rule there is a property right, especially if this is just an EO directly violating the clear terms of the statute (like Biden trying to do SL via CARES). There would have to be some retroactivity involved.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:21 pm to BCreed1
No more billions and billions of taxpayer dollars spent on telling schools how to teach.
Schools and school boards will receive more money instead.
Schools and school boards will receive more money instead.
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