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re: Trump is not a conservative

Posted on 6/7/25 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
32871 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 12:47 pm to
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Trump is and has always been a moderate democrat. The party went so far left that he looks like a conservative.
this is actually bullshite. He was only a Democrat for 8 years, the Bush Jr years. People keep spouting this and for some reason, people gobble it up as the truth.

You know, you can actually go look this up and see that you're wrong?
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
32871 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

He’s a Clinton era Democrat that has moved slightly more right if that over the years on some issues, but he is still that.
except that Trump wasn't a Democrat when Clinton was President.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21961 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

and his deficits were relatively small until 2020

Obama's last deficit - $675B

Trump's '19 deficit - $985B

Trump grew the deficit nearly 45% in the two budget years before Covid
Posted by DUKE87
Covington, LA
Member since May 2021
1614 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 1:04 pm to
I think they didn’t spend enough time researching on how and where to cut spending. Too impatient and it led to negative action. They fired a bunch of ppl just to hire them back. And firing federal worker is 4% of the budget. Not making a lot of sense.

And they seem to still make the middle class make up the taxes. What about top 1%? All the loopholes, LLC, insider trading and off shore accounts. When will the top start paying taxes. That’s who is bankrupting America.

Look at congress and political figures who are stealing from American ppl. Pension for life, healthcare for life and sector life. That’s not fiscally responsible IMO.

Also, it takes a while lot of research and time to figure this out. Not 3-6 months.

Measure twice cut once.
Posted by BlueDogTiger
Member since Jan 2014
1431 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 1:05 pm to
Good. Populist Nationalism is the only way to go.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6780 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 1:08 pm to
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Trump is simply showing his people what populism means. Its easier to fool voters than it is constituents.


There are different types of populist. Bernie Sanders and AOC are left-wing populist and Democratic Socialist. Left-wing and right-wing do share some ideas about government. Josh Hawley is right-wing populist and that is why him and Bernie Sanders support some of the same bills that people in their own party don’t. The Hawley-Sanders bill that would put a interest cap on credit cards is something that Trump could be in favor of

There are populist that lean left, but voted for Trump because of his populist idea’s.

Right-wing populist are usually anti-elite, fiscal and social conservative, economic nationalist, and believe in a strong national identity. One thing that separates MAGA from other right-wing populist is a strong authoritarian figure.

Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11315 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 1:09 pm to
Ahh, you're right. I should have voted for the Kum dumpster and Tampon Tim. What was I thinking?!?!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 1:09 pm to

quote:

Right-wing populist are usually anti-elite, fiscal and social conservative


Not fiscally.

Not even close.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39858 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 1:17 pm to
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except that Trump wasn't a Democrat when Clinton was President.


When it comes to policies, he absolutely is. Arguing otherwise is folly. I really don’t care what party someone is registered to. The pillars of his platform and Clinton’s are basically identical.

I’m not using that as a criticism or endorsement. It’s the reality of what he has campaigned on. It highlights just how absurdly left the left has gone.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73365 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Trump is and has always been a moderate democrat. The party went so far left that he looks like a conservative.


at least 2 aspects of this post are incorrect.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23411 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 1:22 pm to
Never has been a conservative.....so?
Posted by PhtevenWithaV
Member since Jul 2022
1066 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

He was only a Democrat for 8 years


There's a difference between being registered Democrat and being Democrat
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
1203 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 1:39 pm to
This is probably a good time for the “true conservatives” to tell us why they would prefer Kamala.

Never-Trumpers like to keep throwing out the tired old “he hates the same people you hate” tripe. There’s actually quite a bit of truth to that. I wouldn’t call it hate, but as a country, we’d certainly be better off without pillow-biters, illegal aliens, trannies, Marxists, communists, socialists, feminists, environmentalists, and various other leftist misfits.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3802 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 1:41 pm to
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Looks like a billionaires house who is showing off his new cars to his billionaire friend

Really?

Because that looks like the president of the United States shilling for the millionaire that financed his campaign.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73365 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 1:43 pm to
but Act Blue is fine…
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 1:45 pm to
quote:


This is probably a good time for the “true conservatives” to tell us why they would prefer Kamala.


This is such a pathetic tactic.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154903 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 1:47 pm to
Link to anyone you are referring to saying they wish Kamala had won?

Just one example. Please and thank you.
This post was edited on 6/7/25 at 1:55 pm
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74551 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Nobody ever considered him a Conservative, he's always been a moderate America First populist.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3802 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

but Act Blue is fine…

I don't even know what that is, but I've never ever seen a president selling cars on the White House lawn before.
Posted by SligoTiger
South of I-10
Member since Jun 2023
195 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 2:02 pm to
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Nobody ever considered him a Conservative, he's always been an America First populist.


He’s a plutocrat.

He tells conservatives he’s conservative. He tells populists he’s one of the people. He tells evangelicals he’s a Christian. He tells libertarians he’s a libertarian. He tells the reporter he’s rich. He tells the taxman he’s broke. He tells liberals he’s the devil. And they all believe him.

But he tells the wealthy elite he’s The Answer and he tells them he’s for sale. And they don’t believe him, but they buy him anyway. Musk got buyers remorse. Others soon to follow.

He’s a plutocrat.
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