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re: Trump has officially petitioned the SCOTUS to allow him to END birthright citizenship
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:56 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:56 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Birthright citizenship should only apply to legal residents and legal workers here on a visa
Should not apply to illegals, visitors, tourists
Should not apply to illegals, visitors, tourists
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Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:59 am to SallysHuman
quote:Nah. It’s so simple the only way you don’t understand it is if you’re dedicated to being ignorant. I’d rather teach my dog calculus. Better attitude will likely have better results.
Explain your musket argument then. Please, educate me.
Posted on 9/27/25 at 12:01 pm to Taxing Authority
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Nah. It’s so simple the only way you don’t understand it is if you’re dedicated to being ignorant.
You're being an arse for absolutely no reason.
Posted on 9/27/25 at 12:03 pm to SallysHuman
quote:Beats the hell outta being ignorant and unable to understand the simple application of one’s own assertion.
You're being an arse for absolutely no reason.
Posted on 9/27/25 at 12:06 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Liberals are melting as expected.
I already completely shut one down though. She was talking about how "unfair" this is. I made a simple statement:
"Your neighbor is an illegal immigrant and pregnant. She comes to your home while in labor and ends up birthing right there in your bathroom. Then she looks at you and says 'me and my baby live here now, and you and your husband are obligated to financially support us forever'."
That conversation ended real quick, because she knows I'm right.
I already completely shut one down though. She was talking about how "unfair" this is. I made a simple statement:
"Your neighbor is an illegal immigrant and pregnant. She comes to your home while in labor and ends up birthing right there in your bathroom. Then she looks at you and says 'me and my baby live here now, and you and your husband are obligated to financially support us forever'."
That conversation ended real quick, because she knows I'm right.
Posted on 9/27/25 at 12:07 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
I regret that I have had but three humble votes to have offered up to The Don.
Posted on 9/27/25 at 12:17 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Hopefully we get an accurate assesment of the constitution and the president is successful.
Posted on 9/27/25 at 12:19 pm to DCtiger1
they should have written the 14th to say that then....
it didn't apply to natives because natives were considered a separate sovereign nation within the country
if a mexican comes into the US, they are under US jurisdiction...if they weren't then we couldn't arrest them!
it was addressed by the court in 1898...by a son of Chinese immigrants who claimed citizenship because he was born here...he later joined the marines and fought in WW1
it didn't apply to natives because natives were considered a separate sovereign nation within the country
if a mexican comes into the US, they are under US jurisdiction...if they weren't then we couldn't arrest them!
it was addressed by the court in 1898...by a son of Chinese immigrants who claimed citizenship because he was born here...he later joined the marines and fought in WW1
Posted on 9/27/25 at 12:23 pm to SallysHuman
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Not really
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Just a bunch of drivel about interpretation differences and the amendment process
As I said, I've addressed it. You even admit that I addressed it
Posted on 9/27/25 at 12:24 pm to Robin Masters
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Pretty clear this was the exact sentiment of those who ratified the 14th.
Note: none of them were "founders"
Posted on 9/27/25 at 12:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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As I said, I've addressed it. You even admit that I addressed it
Okay... within the textual limits of the 14th amendment... do you think it should be interpreted that an 8mo pregnant woman, of a different nationality, who illegally crosses our border, automatically pops out an American child?
Posted on 9/27/25 at 12:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
What do our founders have to do with the 14th Amendment?
what does the 14th amendment have to do with his post?
Are you suggesting that the founders would have approved the 14th??
based on what??
Posted on 9/27/25 at 12:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Note: none of them were "founders"
That's been ceded... move on.
Posted on 9/27/25 at 12:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Note: none of them were "founders"
Why do we care about the founders? I used to be very much a strict constructionist but that seems kind of silly.
Posted on 9/27/25 at 12:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Note: none of them were "founders"
note - did he say they were?
If I were to make a comment about the founders 'rolling over in their graves at the thought of transgender surgery - would you be lecturing me on the fact they didn't say anything about it?
sir - this is not a courtroom
- hell it isn't even a Wendy's!
Posted on 9/27/25 at 12:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The founders crafted the Constitution with the ability to amend it, which makes their opinions pre-Amendment worthless on the matter.
Oh for Pete's sake
Do you reject the idea of "original intent?"
You've overstepped you limit of "I'll show them how smart I am"
need to dial it back a step
Posted on 9/27/25 at 12:43 pm to deltaland
quote:
Birthright citizenship should only apply to legal residents and legal workers here on a visa
I don't even really disagree, but to accomplish that, the proper way is a Constitutional Amendment. That's why we have them.
Posted on 9/27/25 at 12:45 pm to SallysHuman
quote:
. within the textual limits of the 14th amendment... do you think it should be interpreted that an 8mo pregnant woman, of a different nationality, who illegally crosses our border, automatically pops out an American child?
Yes. Read Wong Kim Ark for a historical-textual analysis as to why.
To fix it, we need to re-write the 14A via amendment.
Posted on 9/27/25 at 12:46 pm to ChineseBandit58
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what does the 14th amendment have to do with his post?
Literally everything
quote:
Are you suggesting that the founders would have approved the 14th??
I'm saying what they would or wouldn't approve of is irrelevant to the discussion entirely.
Posted on 9/27/25 at 12:47 pm to ChineseBandit58
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Do you reject the idea of "original intent?"
You're using words you don't understand within the context of the conversation.
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