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re: Trump: H1B necessary because Americans lack talent
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:23 am to VOR
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:23 am to VOR
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Trump is and always been, a phony and an opportunist. He will make public statements that are obviously untrue but are accepted by his followers. When it ultimately is demonstrated that he is full of shite, those same followers will shrug it off. All they care about is owning the libs, reality be damned…
Trumps go to is labeling everything a “democrat hoax” now. Epstein files? Democrat hoax. The economy sucks and everything is too expensive? Don’t believe your lying eyes, that’s a democrat hoax too. (Btw this was the exact same thing Biden did regarding the economy, gaslighting the people saying republicans are lying and everything is fine) fricking pathetic that some people just eat this up.
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:24 am to LordSaintly
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This is a corporate talking point. There are enough talented Americans to do these jobs.
Yes, but then you would have to pay the Americans a decent wage to do it. Why would a company pay an American $24/hour to work a factory line, when Trump will let them pay a minimal fee to import a guy from Malaysia who will be thrilled to do it for $8/hour for years on end.
They want the benefits of working in America without having to actually employ and pay American workers a reasonable wage.
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 9:25 am
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:26 am to BigPerm30
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They need to let JD run all communications from now on. Trump is fricking terrible at this.
If JD wants any chance at winning he better not do this
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:37 am to 50_Tiger
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:37 am to Crimson77
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They want the benefits of working in America without having to actually employ and pay American workers a reasonable wage.
This is correct. They couldnt possibly setup shop elsewhere or they would have done it already.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:38 am to AGGIES
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CEOs. Look at how many CEOs come from “inferior” education.
They were educated in the US. They come to our schools because they’re better than the schools in India.
I’m not talking about the Satya Nadellas of the world. You won’t convince me that the average H1B recipient is more talented than the average US citizen with similar educational background.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:39 am to Hou_Lawyer
It's amazing the number of people who are in here who are eating up this propaganda and are willing to sell Americans down the river.
I know an American with a software engineering degree (with work experience and great grades from undergrad from Georgia Tech) that gave up job hunting in the tech field because of the massive number of H1B workers that have been imported by tech companies. He now works as an assistant manager in a hotel.
Also worth noting is that many of these tech companies use H1B visas, import these foreign tech workers, have Americans train them on how to do their jobs, and then dismiss the American workers. I also know of a lot of stories where H1B workers in tech screw up a lot of code that causes companies to then rehire some of the same people they canned to fix their screwups.
The basis for all of this is just wanting to have cheap labor.
I know an American with a software engineering degree (with work experience and great grades from undergrad from Georgia Tech) that gave up job hunting in the tech field because of the massive number of H1B workers that have been imported by tech companies. He now works as an assistant manager in a hotel.
Also worth noting is that many of these tech companies use H1B visas, import these foreign tech workers, have Americans train them on how to do their jobs, and then dismiss the American workers. I also know of a lot of stories where H1B workers in tech screw up a lot of code that causes companies to then rehire some of the same people they canned to fix their screwups.
The basis for all of this is just wanting to have cheap labor.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:40 am to Rip Torn
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The American people are under the assumption that the US education system is great. It isn’t. We rank 16th in science and 34th in math.
Where does India rank?
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:41 am to LordSaintly
What would convince you?
Would math proficiency testing scores?
Would math proficiency testing scores?
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:44 am to Hou_Lawyer
This sounds like that great replacement thing MAGA always talks about
......the call is coming from inside the house.
......the call is coming from inside the house.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:45 am to CreoleTigerEsq
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The basis for all of this is just wanting to have cheap labor.
You say that like there's something wrong with it; of course they want to save money where they can.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:48 am to Bunk Moreland
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In a day or two, they will send out JD to speak or have him tweet to try to smooth things over.
Trump is NOT an eloquent speaker!!, Vance has been showing he can handle the speaking part well!
Like I've been saying lately, Trump needs a few days off to reset. He's cranky and running on fumes!!
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:49 am to Flats
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You say that like there's something wrong with it; of course they want to save money where they can.
I guess that you missed the part of my post that stated this:
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I also know of a lot of stories where H1B workers in tech screw up a lot of code that causes companies to then rehire some of the same people they canned to fix their screwups.
So, how is rehiring an American worker after hiring two foreign born tech workers at a cheaper cost to replace them allow them to save money?
It's inefficient, and ultimately, costs the employer more to do it this way.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:49 am to CreoleTigerEsq
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It's amazing the number of people who are in here who are eating up this propaganda and are willing to sell Americans down the river.
I know an American with a software engineering degree (with work experience and great grades from undergrad from Georgia Tech) that gave up job hunting in the tech field because of the massive number of H1B workers that have been imported by tech companies. He now works as an assistant manager in a hotel.
Also worth noting is that many of these tech companies use H1B visas, import these foreign tech workers, have Americans train them on how to do their jobs, and then dismiss the American workers. I also know of a lot of stories where H1B workers in tech screw up a lot of code that causes companies to then rehire some of the same people they canned to fix their screwups.
An article on this happening in Collierville, TN after Fred Smith stepped down and was replaced by Raj Subramanium. Their customer service has fallen off of a cliff.
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:53 am to Flats
Then you shouldn’t have any problems with illegals working in agriculture and construction. Right?
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:53 am to stout
quote:Serious question: how many of these are there?
frick that. Get H1Bs out
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:53 am to CreoleTigerEsq
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It's inefficient, and ultimately, costs the employer more to do it this way.
Then it's not cheaper labor.
But if it is cheaper I can't fault them for using it. All of us take price into consideration, why is it bad when a business does it?
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:54 am to NIH
Love flooding skilled jobs with cheap immigrant labor while deporting people who build houses and grow food
Really great policy
Really great policy
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:54 am to slidingstop
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If you truly believe that a work ethic is taught after an employee enters the workforce, you are terribly mistaken. And a glowing example of why the foreign candidate gets hired. While I appreciate your attempt to be humorous, it avoids the point the President is making.
You don’t just naturally become studious. You have it ingrained in you. How do we whip army soldiers into shape? Do they just magically start wanting to do the work?
Regardless, you act like the people that aren’t working right now are lazy and were fired. However, the problem is that they are never hired in the first place. You act like their work ethic is subpar without hiring them, or based on anecdotes. The young men entering the trades have every bit of work ethic you’re complaining about them not having.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:55 am to NIH
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Then you shouldn’t have any problems with illegals
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illegals
You see the difference between that and a legal visa? I don't have a problem with hispanics working in agriculture and construction, if that's what you're asking. I do have a problem with illegals regardless of skin tone, education, culture, etc.
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